[Football] Relegation odds 20/21

CheeseRolls · Aug 5, 2020

FatSuperman said:
See also; Huddersfield.

I see these as similar situations, a bit like our decent performance in year 1. You are still riding the togetherness wave, which makes a huge difference no matter the league you are in. It is incredibly hard to maintain that when players start being replaced, and fatigue of 'surviving' kicks in. Burn out from a small squad of core players also contributes. And then, the plummet begins - arresting that slide is pretty challenging, even after you've dropped to the division below, the slide can continue.

Wolves I do see as a different scenario. They clearly have a very talented squad, in my opinion built by nefarious means, but hey ho.

Then you've got the Burnley model. Set up in a very specific way and happy to play that way, despite it being fairly awful to watch. Credit to the club and management for persisting with it - it's about results for them.

I don't think it will be decisive, but I expect Wolves to have a tougher season. The West Midlands triangle will make a tough little mini league, which West Brom will drag them into.

theboybilly · Aug 5, 2020

wunt be druv said:
Surely those odds must be wrong! Aren't Leeds 7/2 to WIN the League

2/7 surely

Weststander · Aug 5, 2020

spence said:
[MENTION=21158]Weststander[/MENTION] will be all over this thread

I’ve learnt to wait until transfer business is sorted.

Every summer scores of NSC’ers predict the relegation of Newcastle, CP or Burnley, then they survive or more with room to spare.

Icy Gull · Aug 5, 2020

I still don’t get how Leeds with a team of loanees and non proven PL players can be those odds. I am obviously underestimating Bielsa, even though there is no guarantee that he’ll even be manager when they kick off :shrug:

RM-Taylor · Aug 5, 2020

Icy Gull said:
I still don’t get how Leeds with a team of loanees and non proven PL players can be those odds. I am obviously underestimating Bielsa, even though their is no guarantee that he’ll even be manager when they kick off

Because they’re Leeds, they’re gonna win the league within 3 years don’t we know :laugh:

rogersix · Aug 5, 2020

loz said:
How can they work out odds when the squads will change in most teams by at least 5 or 6 players ??

they guess

Yoda · Aug 5, 2020

FatSuperman said:
See also; Huddersfield.

I see these as similar situations, a bit like our decent performance in year 1. You are still riding the togetherness wave, which makes a huge difference no matter the league you are in. It is incredibly hard to maintain that when players start being replaced, and fatigue of 'surviving' kicks in. Burn out from a small squad of core players also contributes. And then, the plummet begins - arresting that slide is pretty challenging, even after you've dropped to the division below, the slide can continue.

Wolves I do see as a different scenario. They clearly have a very talented squad, in my opinion built by nefarious means, but hey ho.

Then you've got the Burnley model. Set up in a very specific way and happy to play that way, despite it being fairly awful to watch. Credit to the club and management for persisting with it - it's about results for them.

I would put Sheffield United more aligned to Reading on their first promotion. Took the league by surprise and finished comfortably top half and just missed out on Europe. 2nd season completely struggled and relegated.

Machiavelli · Aug 5, 2020

blue-shifted said:
Who's got Leeds at 4s mate? I want in

betfair do. I've just had a bite. Tasty.

blue-shifted · Aug 5, 2020

Machiavelli said:
betfair do. I've just had a bite. Tasty.

Very tasty indeed. I had £123 in my Betfair account, (had no idea it was there, it's been years since I went on betfair), just put the lot on Leeds to go down and am looking forward to my 2021/22 season ticket to be paid for with a good sized chunk left over for Harveys and pie .... Damn, it will taste good, but god I miss live football

Machiavelli · Aug 5, 2020

blue-shifted said:
Very tasty indeed. I had £123 in my Betfair account, (had no idea it was there, it's been years since I went on betfair), just put the lot on Leeds to go down and am looking forward to my 2021/22 season ticket to be paid for with a good sized chunk left over for Harveys and pie .... Damn, it will taste good, but god I miss live football

Only a tenner on it for me. Good luck to us both. I'll enjoy the outcome far more than the winnings, but it'll help for a few Harveys and Piglets in the WSU. I'm missing live football too.

Billy Seagull · Aug 5, 2020

blue-shifted said:
Very tasty indeed. I had £123 in my Betfair account, (had no idea it was there, it's been years since I went on betfair), just put the lot on Leeds to go down and am looking forward to my 2021/22 season ticket to be paid for with a good sized chunk left over for Harveys and pie .... Damn, it will taste good, but god I miss live football

Blimey, I was allowed £1.25

LamieRobertson · Aug 5, 2020

Mo Gosfield said:
Wolves are interesting as they are almost a unique project, built around a Portugese manager, a Portugese agent and a core of very good Portugese players ( 7 at the last count ). Their ' sustainability ' in the top half could well depend on this core staying in place. The dynamic in any club can change very quickly and if Nuno were to be tempted away, then the very good progress that Wolves are making as a club could stall. One or two players could follow him and there is no question that the real big boys will be eyeing up Traore. So long as the status quo continues then I think Wolves will do ok. Any changes and I'm not so sure.

I don’t think they can afford to stay still as a squad though...like any it needs to evolve

spence · Aug 5, 2020

Billy Seagull said:
Blimey, I was allowed £1.25

You have to be 18 to gamble.

Billy Seagull · Aug 6, 2020

spence said:
You have to be 18 to gamble.

I'm just about over 18 and gamble for a living :lolol:

schmunk · Aug 6, 2020

Billy Seagull said:
I'm just about over 18 and gamble for a living

"Eating from random bins" is risky, but not technically gambling...

Sorry

Peter Grummit · Aug 6, 2020

Hard to ignore that Leeds price.

I'm on it with a small sum.

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RM-Taylor · Aug 6, 2020

blue-shifted said:
A successful treble involving Leeds, Villa and Palace would probably give me more pleasure than the birth of my first son

100/1 on SkyBet for the treble

nwgull · Aug 6, 2020

Icy Gull said:
I still don’t get how Leeds with a team of loanees and non proven PL players can be those odds. I am obviously underestimating Bielsa, even though there is no guarantee that he’ll even be manager when they kick off

The odds at the moment price in the assumption that they're going to make some transfers between now and October.

blue-shifted · Aug 6, 2020

nwgull said:
The odds at the moment price in the assumption that they're going to make some transfers between now and October.

So will everyone else.

I can't see any reason to suspect that Leeds will spend bigger or better than their relegation rivals

Billy Seagull · Aug 7, 2020

Paddy Power are laying the 4/1 in the shops. Ladcrooks cut from 4/1 to 7/2 last night but don’t have the prices available in the shops.

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