Is this going a bit too far?

wellquickwoody · Jul 17, 2020

Does history need to be erased?

Please, no fighting or slanging, just polite and non aggressive debate.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-53436447

super-seagulls · Jul 17, 2020

I think that if we were to re-write the past we would be unable to learn the errors of our ways to correct the present and change the future for good.
Leave it, learn from it and eradicate all forms of prejudice and oppression.

beorhthelm · Jul 17, 2020

removing headstones doesnt change the past, doesnt make up for the past, does nothing positive. it makes some people feel they've made a difference while not doing anything constructive.

Simster · Jul 17, 2020

I'd default to the opinions of black people. If the consensus is that they don't care one way or the other, then don't bother. [MENTION=599]beorhthelm[/MENTION] is right in that it doesn't change the past, but on the other hand if it is offensive to people today, what is the point in keeping it?

Tom Bombadil · Jul 17, 2020

History is always political. You can't change the facts but you can chose which areas you wish to highlight and celebrate.

blue'n'white · Jul 17, 2020

Completely and utterly wrong
It was the name of a much loved pet in the 1940s - what possible exception could anyone take now ?
You CANNOT, nor should you try to, rewrite history.
Will they try and change the name of the village of "Blackboys" next ?

Fred Oliver - Legend · Jul 17, 2020

what was the dogs name?

hans kraay fan club · Jul 17, 2020

Where is the poll option for 'It is an 80 year-old headstone for a dog. Who gives a toss?'

GT49er · Jul 17, 2020

Going a step too far for me. Guy Gibson's dog was called ++++++, because it was of a colour then known as ++++++ brown. It's ridiculous that I even have to censor myself by using +s for fear of abuse and possible sanctions if I don't. I wouldn't dream of calling anybody that name, or use it in an aggressive or abusive manner - but historically it's a fact that it was the name of someone's much loved pet dog.
Even if you're condemning the use of the word, you're still not allowed to write, for example, "Calling someone a ++++++ is wrong and disgusting".

Harry Wilson's tackle · Jul 17, 2020

Simster said:
I'd default to the opinions of black people. If the consensus is that they don't care one way or the other, then don't bother. [MENTION=599]beorhthelm[/MENTION] is right in that it doesn't change the past, but on the other hand if it is offensive to people today, what is the point in keeping it?

This.

As part of my annual review I am reviewing my ignore list.

This is a fishing thread posted by someone I will continue to keep on ignore.

Bakero · Jul 17, 2020

hans kraay fan club said:
Where is the poll option for 'It is an 80 year-old headstone for a dog. Who gives a toss?'

That's the option I was looking for too.

Bold Seagull · Jul 17, 2020

Simster said:
I'd default to the opinions of black people. If the consensus is that they don't care one way or the other, then don't bother. [MENTION=599]beorhthelm[/MENTION] is right in that it doesn't change the past, but on the other hand if it is offensive to people today, what is the point in keeping it?

End of thread seems an apt reply to this comment.

Icy Gull · Jul 17, 2020

As long as all rap songs with the same word in them are banned from broadcast I’ll be OK with it, if not then nah leave it

hans kraay fan club · Jul 17, 2020

blue'n'white said:
Completely and utterly wrong
It was the name of a much loved pet in the 1940s - what possible exception could anyone take now ?
You CANNOT, nor should you try to, rewrite history.
Will they try and change the name of the village of "Blackboys" next ?

Why on earth would 'they'?

It isn't in any way an unacceptable term, and specifically in this case, refers to people working in the local charcoal industry.

blue'n'white · Jul 17, 2020

hans kraay fan club said:
Why on earth would 'they'?

It isn't in any way an unacceptable term, and specifically in this case, refers to people working in the local charcoal industry.

Exactly but the way that things seem to be spiralling I'm sure that the name will become questioned ?

Neville's Breakfast · Jul 17, 2020

wellquickwoody said:
Does history need to be erased?

Please, no fighting or slanging, just polite and non aggressive debate.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-53436447

You’re a lot more subtle than [MENTION=396]WATFORD zero[/MENTION]
I’ll give you that.

Bakero · Jul 17, 2020

blue'n'white said:
Exactly but the way that things seem to be spiralling I'm sure that the name will become questioned ?

If you're sure, why is it a question?

hans kraay fan club · Jul 17, 2020

blue'n'white said:
Exactly but the way that things seem to be spiralling I'm sure that the name will become questioned ?

Well, what is the problem then? Questioning 'things' is good. 'Things' sometimes need to be questioned.

In this particular case, 'they' can question what the name means, can find out the perfectly inoffensive answer, and get on with life, happy.

blue'n'white · Jul 17, 2020

Bakero said:
If you're sure, why is it a question?

Fat fingers !

Bakero · Jul 17, 2020

Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊

Is this going a bit too far?

Is this going too far?

Perfectly acceptable, I want more actions like it

Unnecessary, you cannot change the past

Many More Voting Years

Soup! Why didn’t I get any Soup?

A. Virgo, Football Genius

"the man's an arse"

Well-known member

Well-known member

Well-known member

The voice of reason.

Well-known member

Harry Wilson's Tackle

Languidly clinical

strong and stable with me, or...

Back on the rollercoaster

The voice of reason.

Well-known member

Well-known member

Languidly clinical

The voice of reason.

Well-known member

Languidly clinical

Share this page