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nicko31
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Tories will be gutted
vegster
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- May 5, 2008
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I see your point, he does seem fireproof whatever he does. However, since the election he has had ever more scrutiny and it's not looking good, most of his jobs end up in tears and I like to think this will be no exception. The sheer weight of scandal and incompetence will catch up with him.
Well done Starmer, miraculously, I don't quite know how, the Labour Party is truly no longer under the control of Momentum leaning members.
If he keeps this up, we'll have the opportunity in 2024 to vote for a centre-left government. Or not depending on your preference.
If he keeps this up, we'll have the opportunity in 2024 to vote for a centre-left government. Or not depending on your preference.
Machiavelli
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The reason offered for the sacking was anti-semitism, and I'd welcome an explanation as to why it constitutes anti-semitism. I think you're right that Starmer wants to appear tough on Momentum, but he wants to appear tougher still on the issue of anti-semitism. From what I can see, Maxine Peake
love made a comment about Mossad, but I might be wrong.
The reason offered for the sacking was anti-semitism, and I'd welcome an explanation as to why it constitutes anti-semitism. I think you're right that Starmer wants to appear tough on Momentum, but he wants to appear tougher still on the issue of anti-semitism. From what I can see, Maxine Peake
I must admit I haven’t delved into the link, but I inherently trust Starmer, he wouldn’t done this lightly.
Going by the BBC it’s the link or the link to a link on Jewish conspiracy theories. I’ve got no time for the Alt Right, parts of the Hard Left or t*ssers such as Icke banging on the Rothchild’s, Jewish traits or tropes. Jews face an internet pincer movement from most unlikely allies.
The Labour party and socialism was built on Jewish people from Russia to the US over a century ago, who pioneered social justice. If Starmer restores that, blitzes the party of antisemites and those retweeting antisemitic innuendo, only good can come from it.
The above doesn’t mean that Israel’s government shouldn’t be brought to account for atrocities and land theft.
Baker lite
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It’s happening, they’re tearing themselves apart .
There will be two Labour parties at the next election.
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Maxine Peake repeated a claim that's been made elsewhere that the US police learnt the restraint techniques used in the killing of George Floyd from the Israeli special forces. The article included a quote from an Israeli spokesperson denying this claim. This was just one line in a long interview though. Long Bailey sharing the article doesn't lend her support to this theory in my eyes.
CliveWalkerWingWizard
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If you are so closed minded why feel the need to comment?
Perhaps Starmer is playing the long game, eliminating vote losers?
My extended family and mates include many floating voters. To a person, they couldn’t stand Burgon and RLB. Not through fear of their budding greatness, instead they were seen as charmless class warriors, in Burgon’s case a car crash in every TV interview.
Harsh by Starmer maybe, but being electable is almost everything. John Smith, Blair, Brown and Campbell grasped that. Only winning the votes of lifelong anti-Tories leads to political irrelevance. The hearts and minds of ‘middle England’ needs to be wooed.
Machiavelli
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All of this kind of stuff is tiresome. I've had a look at the BBC news story you refer to, and also the original Peake interview in The Indepenent that I've scanned. Can't see anything in those on Jewish conspiracy (on which, all conspiracy theories are awful, but anti-Semitic ones are the most pernicious).
Starmer has indicated that the "article contained Jewish conspiracy theories". I'm still struggling to understand how, and will continue to until I'm offered an explanation that makes sense.
Baker lite
Banned
I liked her in dinner ladies.
Baker lite
Banned
The ostensible conspiracy theory is that the restraint technique used in the killing of George Floyd was developed by Israeli special forces who taught it to the Minnesota PD. Though the Israelis have denied this, it is a fact that the Israeli military, Police and intelligence services have provided training to US police departments both in Israel and in the States.
The right decision by Starmer, needs to stand up to the anti Semites in his party and this shows true leadership, to think only a few months ago she was one of the favourites for the top job, now back on the back benches.
Baker lite
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It’s a good start, the Labour Party is infested with anti semites, Serkeeer has more work to do if He is to rebuild the red wall.
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CliveWalkerWingWizard
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From all your posts, it appears that you would never vote labour, but you think that the Labour Party should be knocking down your door.
I don’t get it ?
I don’t get it ?
Baker lite
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If you don’t get it change your aftershave.
I have voted Labour in the past, I find it unlikely I will again, I don’t want anyone ‘Knocking down ‘ my door, Nobody has ever knocked down my door and if they did it would be a swift introduction to the Louisville slugger.
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vegster
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If you came out from under your rock more often you might have noticed the two Tory parties that have been fighting for about 30 years..It’s happening, they’re tearing themselves apart .
There will be two Labour parties at the next election.
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vegster
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I think you are suffering from yet another delusion, no such thing as the Louisville Slugger, there may be a Louisville Slug, under a stone.