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Just how awful is this government? June 2020 edition











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Kinky Gerbil

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Pretty pink fairy said:
700 have already been returned which in the Grand scheme of things is no where near enough imho , not to worry FULL control of our borders is on its way, its what the majority of people living in the UK will be pleased to hear
Regards
DG
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Excellent.

Won’t need the french to stop them anymore.
 






Randy McNob

Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
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Chicken Run said:
I didn’t arrive at it it, see below I should have posted this link, sorry for the inconvenience.


https://www.cashfloat.co.uk/blog/money-borrowing/illegal-immigrants-welfare/
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That's asylum seekers, not sure why they use the phrase illegal immigrants which is misleading. they are not a burden, we have an obligation under the 1951 Geneva Convention

Wouldn't take any notice of migration watch either, they claim to be independent but are being mysteriously funded and generally stoke fear about immigration
 








Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

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Out of interest could any of the resident Do gooders give an acceptable number of illegal migrants they'd like to see enter the country or is it a case of keep coming the more the merrier?
Regards
DF
 
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GrizzlingGammon

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Pretty pink fairy said:
Out of interest could any of the resident Do gooders give an acceptable number of illegal migrants they'd like to see enter the country or is it a case of keep coming the more the merrier?
Regards
DF
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I'd welcome 10 asylum seekers for every feckless dole dosser tw@t like yourself. They'd be more use than you.
 


beorhthelm

beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Plooks said:
If a government is doing its job correctly there should be ZERO illegal migrants. They should be documented and given legal pathways. Illegals is entirely down to government incompetence.
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giving all migrants right to stay and work does remove the "illegal" aspect. do you think that policy might have any unwelcomed consquences?
 




beorhthelm

beorhthelm

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Plooks said:
Where did I say "give all migrants rights to stay and work"? I just said they should be documented. That could be a combination of work visas for some and legal status to remain for a period of time depending on what the issue is in their homeland. Either way they should be documented and not illegal. If people are fleeing countries there should be a legal pathway for them to do so. If we are getting "too many" (whatever that is) then we seriously need to address the wider problems causing it.
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and you didnt say asylum seekers. i thought it was implied they need to have some status and entitled to work, as you've said.
 




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Mo Gosfield

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Pretty pink fairy said:
700 have already been returned which in the Grand scheme of things is no where near enough imho , not to worry FULL control of our borders is on its way, its what the majority of people living in the UK will be pleased to hear
Regards
DG
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Full control of our borders is an impossibility. A small vessel slips unseen into the expanse of Dungeness. The 10-15 passengers scurry across the shingle to a waiting vehicle ( all part of the service ) It takes them to an area of the country where they can enter the black economy, be paid in cash and live outside of taxation and state recognition. It is an industry that cannot be controlled. It is a daily occurence and it has been for some considerable time.
Those that have been returned are a small percentage of those that have been detected and intercepted. We can't control our borders. No country in the world can. You try and do your best. We have a natural border ( water ) which should make us more difficult to enter but it doesn't deter people. This is an attractive place to come to, particularly if you can live persona non grata, which many do.
We have lax standards and lax control and no amount of big talking will change anything.
 




Randy McNob

Randy McNob

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Jun 13, 2020
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Mo Gosfield said:
Full control of our borders is an impossibility. A small vessel slips unseen into the expanse of Dungeness. The 10-15 passengers scurry across the shingle to a waiting vehicle ( all part of the service ) It takes them to an area of the country where they can enter the black economy, be paid in cash and live outside of taxation and state recognition. It is an industry that cannot be controlled. It is a daily occurence and it has been for some considerable time.
Those that have been returned are a small percentage of those that have been detected and intercepted. We can't control our borders. No country in the world can. You try and do your best. We have a natural border ( water ) which should make us more difficult to enter but it doesn't deter people. This is an attractive place to come to, particularly if you can live persona non grata, which many do.
We have lax standards and lax control and no amount of big talking will change anything.
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Boris / Farage and all the Brexperts said we have to leave the EU to control our borders

and how does blaming the French or chucking them a few more MIllions fit in with "taking back control" ?
 


Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

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Mo Gosfield said:
Full control of our borders is an impossibility. A small vessel slips unseen into the expanse of Dungeness. The 10-15 passengers scurry across the shingle to a waiting vehicle ( all part of the service ) It takes them to an area of the country where they can enter the black economy, be paid in cash and live outside of taxation and state recognition. It is an industry that cannot be controlled. It is a daily occurence and it has been for some considerable time.
Those that have been returned are a small percentage of those that have been detected and intercepted. We can't control our borders. No country in the world can. You try and do your best. We have a natural border ( water ) which should make us more difficult to enter but it doesn't deter people. This is an attractive place to come to, particularly if you can live persona non grata, which many do.
We have lax standards and lax control and no amount of big talking will change anything.
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I appreciate that , but by giving the Government more power to return illegal migrants is better than the current situation the UK is faced with ie EU laws still applicable, agree ?
Regards
DF
 


WATFORD zero

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Pretty pink fairy said:
I appreciate that , but by giving the Government more power to return illegal migrants is better than the current situation the UK is faced with ie EU laws still applicable, agree ?
Regards
DF
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And here's the announcement you've been expecting

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-immgration-eu-rejects-asylum-seeker-return-plea-dublin-regulations-michel-barnier-a9680581.html

EU rejects UK plea to allow asylum seeker returns after Brexit
EU not expected to allow new agreement to replace Dublin Regulation

Britain is set to lose its power to send asylum seekers back to other EU countries after the Brexit transition period ends, throwing the government’s immigration policy into disarray. :shootself

:lolol::lolol::lolol:
 


Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

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WATFORD zero said:
And here's the announcement you've been expecting

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-immgration-eu-rejects-asylum-seeker-return-plea-dublin-regulations-michel-barnier-a9680581.html

EU rejects UK plea to allow asylum seeker returns after Brexit
EU not expected to allow new agreement to replace Dublin Regulation

Britain is set to lose its power to send asylum seekers back to other EU countries after the Brexit transition period ends, throwing the government’s immigration policy into disarray. :shootself

:lolol::lolol::lolol:
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Let's wait and see how that one maps out :hilton:
Regards
DF
 




WATFORD zero

WATFORD zero

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Pretty pink fairy said:
Let's wait and see how that one maps out :hilton:
Regards
DF
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Pretty pink fairy said:
Asylum seekers? there may well be a few but most are looking for the UK the soft touch of Northern Europe , they're simply not needed in the UK, but all is not lost legislation is in place to send them back as from the end of December 2020 , it's as straight forward as that, most reasonable people see it that way apart from a few liberal day dreamers like yourself
Regards
DF
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Pretty pink fairy said:
It's being prepared for release as we speak
Regards
DF
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When is this imminent announcement of yours due then ?

Just when it looks like your village idiot title may be under pressure, you claim it back with a cracker - every single time :lolol::lolol::lolol:
 


Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

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WATFORD zero said:
When is this imminent announcement of yours due then ?

Just when it looks like your village idiot title may be under pressure, you claim it back with a cracker - every single time :lolol::lolol::lolol:
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2nd reading on the 25th September then on from there for royal accent , hate to see illegal migrants sloshing around in the middle of the channel eh :hilton:
Regards
DF
 


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