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Just how awful is this government? June 2020 edition



Jan 30, 2008
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No matter how bad things seem right now, remember one thing..this lot could have been in Government.
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A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
17,523
Deepest, darkest Sussex
I see Johnson's setting up a charity to pay for the refurbishment of No.11 Downing Street. Must be the first time since he became PM he's done anything for charity without Marcus Rashford forcing him to do it.
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!

Indeed this is a trick they've been successfully deploying for a couple of centuries now and they are pretty damn good at it. When I was first studying politics back in the early 70s there was a lot of (well informed) speculation that the working class Tory vote would (quite literally) die off: The generation that looked up to Toffs as the natural party of government - the deference vote - would fade away and Labour would become the natural party of government.

This clearly didn't happen and amongst other things under-estimated

a) the skill of the tory party to adapt with the times;

b) the power of the right-wing press (no coincidence that the one time Labour looked like fulfilling this prediction was when Blair leapt into bed with Murdoch)

All rather depressing for some of us. I'm afraid.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,265
Indeed this is a trick they've been successfully deploying for a couple of centuries now and they are pretty damn good at it. When I was first studying politics back in the early 70s there was a lot of (well informed) speculation that the working class Tory vote would (quite literally) die off: The generation that looked up to Toffs as the natural party of government - the deference vote - would fade away and Labour would become the natural party of government.

This clearly didn't happen and amongst other things under-estimated

a) the skill of the tory party to adapt with the times;

b) the power of the right-wing press (no coincidence that the one time Labour looked like fulfilling this prediction was when Blair leapt into bed with Murdoch)

All rather depressing for some of us. I'm afraid.

there is a counter point, that many people just dont like what the Labour party serves up or how it presents it. disparaging the working class Tory as not knowing their own mind, is part of that.
 


Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
4,440
there is a counter point, that many people just dont like what the Labour party serves up or how it presents it. disparaging the working class Tory as not knowing their own mind, is part of that.

which is in alot of cases cleverly perpetuated by the right. Many ghouls and dark forces working in social media controlling opinion
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,265
which is in alot of cases cleverly perpetuated by the right. Many ghouls and dark forces working in social media controlling opinion

thanks for the brilliant demonstration.
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,523
Gods country fortnightly
Indeed this is a trick they've been successfully deploying for a couple of centuries now and they are pretty damn good at it. When I was first studying politics back in the early 70s there was a lot of (well informed) speculation that the working class Tory vote would (quite literally) die off: The generation that looked up to Toffs as the natural party of government - the deference vote - would fade away and Labour would become the natural party of government.

This clearly didn't happen and amongst other things under-estimated

a) the skill of the tory party to adapt with the times;

b) the power of the right-wing press (no coincidence that the one time Labour looked like fulfilling this prediction was when Blair leapt into bed with Murdoch)

All rather depressing for some of us. I'm afraid.

The Tories are exceptionally good are convincing poorer people that somehow they are on their side. Tapping into the red wall with socially conservative policies amplified by continual culture wars seems to be the theme of the day, and of course get the offshore media billionaires to do the heavy lifting - this status quo suits them too

Meanwhile we continue with greater inequality and some of the worse social protections and pensions in the western world. Maybe Johnson did aspire to tackle some of this but his shambolic handling of Covid combined with an ugly Brexit is likely to put pay to this
 


Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
4,440
The Tories are exceptionally good are convincing poorer people that somehow they are on their side. Tapping into the red wall with socially conservative policies amplified by continual culture wars seems to be the theme of the day, and of course get the offshore media billionaires to do the heavy lifting - this status quo suits them too

Meanwhile we continue with greater inequality and some of the worse social protections and pensions in the western world. Maybe Johnson did aspire to tackle some of this but his shambolic handling of Covid combined with an ugly Brexit is likely to put pay to this

Well, probably the only thing Farage got right was populism works - which is basically the new name for divide and rule
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,867
Perspective is a funny old thing ...... Calls for Nicola Sturgeon to resign after " appearing to lie to the Scottish parliament " said the Scottish Conservative party ! It seems that to lead the Government of the UK means its ok to lie repeatedly, but, woe betide you if you are a Non English party leader ! Lying gets a Vote of Non Confidence... you couldn't make it up !
 


sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
12,466
Hove
Perspective is a funny old thing ...... Calls for Nicola Sturgeon to resign after " appearing to lie to the Scottish parliament " said the Scottish Conservative party ! It seems that to lead the Government of the UK means its ok to lie repeatedly, but, woe betide you if you are a Non English party leader ! Lying gets a Vote of Non Confidence... you couldn't make it up !
Indeed. Lying to the Queen about proroguing Parliament... fine. Anyone else... resign !
 










nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,523
Gods country fortnightly
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Well it looks like they DID think clapping would suffice.

Some reward for dealing with the huge number of unnecessary covid hospitalisations due to the Johnson governments negligence
 








beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,265
interesting detail in YouGov poll, the demographic break down shows Labour support is lower among C2DE (27%) than ABC1 (36%). Conservatives have the reverse, with ABC1 lower (40%) and 52% support from C2DE. other polls match the pattern. strange times.
 











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