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Is no statue safe?
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studio150
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Tom Bombadil
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34265882
edit Beaten to it, but it does explain the argument quite nicely
edit Beaten to it, but it does explain the argument quite nicely
Billy the Fish
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Sums up the mentality of some people. Binary thinking in a complex world.
Baker lite
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Perhaps they thought it was Alf Garnet.
symyjym
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From what I have heard he was racist towards Africans and also a bit of a pervert which included having sex with his grandniece.
wolfie
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Bit worried for Lady Godiva up this way. Flaunted her body about. Will probably get feminists agitated in the current climate.
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I hope the feminists don't find the King Henry VIII statue
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
He was a racist
Phoenix011
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He was a racist, to be fair
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It's about thought v action.
Every single form of homage to anyone ever would need to be torn down otherwise.
Most people are celebrated for their deeds. And Ghandi did something pretty major in his life. Although I'm not quite so sure it worked out as well as it could.
He was racist and had run-ins with indigenous South Africans. There was other stuff (although I'm not sure it's all substantiated).
Colston is different. He actively was involved in a terrible trade. Ghandi just had an attitude that was prevalent at his time, as did Churchill.
In the end we are all racists to a greater or lesser degree. Maybe we just shouldn't have statues.
Every single form of homage to anyone ever would need to be torn down otherwise.
Most people are celebrated for their deeds. And Ghandi did something pretty major in his life. Although I'm not quite so sure it worked out as well as it could.
He was racist and had run-ins with indigenous South Africans. There was other stuff (although I'm not sure it's all substantiated).
Colston is different. He actively was involved in a terrible trade. Ghandi just had an attitude that was prevalent at his time, as did Churchill.
In the end we are all racists to a greater or lesser degree. Maybe we just shouldn't have statues.
NorthstandRacoon
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As I saw someone say earlier, they may have said or done what we consider today, as racist actions/words, however back then, 70-80 years ago this terms were the norm and it wasn't seen as racist.
It's inexcusable to spray memorials, statues and other public property to make a point. I am completely for these protests but get fed up when idiots show up and ruin it. With a mainly right win media, this makes them all look bad one they aren't.
It's inexcusable to spray memorials, statues and other public property to make a point. I am completely for these protests but get fed up when idiots show up and ruin it. With a mainly right win media, this makes them all look bad one they aren't.
Baker lite
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The Antifa are now making noises about levelling the Coliseum and the Pyramids..
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Billy the Fish
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He was a racist
Does that cancel out anything good that he ever did?
We might as well just burn all the history books and start again, have only two books containing a list of names. Non racists in the black book, racists in the white book. Forget whether their opinions changed during their life or if they were a product of prevailing opinions of the time.
cunning fergus
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Indeed, I bet if I said Africans were one step away from animals or routinely referred to the inhabitants of Africa as savages I would get a ban on here.
Ghandi had clear and published extreme views on racial superiority, not acceptable today, so pull it down and put it in a museum. That seems to be the view on how we confront uncomfortable history these days.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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Wouldn't happen in Brighton. Oh.
Neville's Breakfast
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Or we should have statues and we could tackle the problem of racism instead of being sidetracked into the non problem of statues.