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LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
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SHOREHAM BY SEA
If that is for the islands the cases are linked to mainland Spain and not brits abroad

Also

From 2 July, the Spanish government requires all arrivals to Spain from the UK to present on entry one of the following: a negative COVID-19 test; or proof of vaccination. See Testing and vaccination requirements for arrivals from the UK for details.

A possible fly in the ointment for some (paper talk?)

Up to five million Britons face being locked out of European holidays because their vaccines are not recognised by the EU's passport scheme, the Telegraph has learned.
 


Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
57,845
hassocks
A possible fly in the ointment for some (paper talk?)

Up to five million Britons face being locked out of European holidays because their vaccines are not recognised by the EU's passport scheme, the Telegraph has learned.

Same for states (they are not recognising the AZ at all) I’m sure it will be cleared up soon
 


dsr-burnley

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Aug 15, 2014
2,185
Same for states (they are not recognising the AZ at all) I’m sure it will be cleared up soon
It surely should be cleared up. After all, the reason these jabs have not been approved is that the EU and/or the USA have not done the tests to prove they are safe to inject. There isn't any doubt that people who have been injected (and survived) are significantly better or worse protected than people who had other jabs.

The worry is that the common sense approach of accepting anyone who has received a working jab, is overrideen by the jobsworth approach of "the rules say no". Will anyone, politician or civil servant, have the gumption to state the obvious and treat AstraZeneca vaccinees the same as the rest?
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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It surely should be cleared up. After all, the reason these jabs have not been approved is that the EU and/or the USA have not done the tests to prove they are safe to inject. There isn't any doubt that people who have been injected (and survived) are significantly better or worse protected than people who had other jabs.

The worry is that the common sense approach of accepting anyone who has received a working jab, is overrideen by the jobsworth approach of "the rules say no". Will anyone, politician or civil servant, have the gumption to state the obvious and treat AstraZeneca vaccinees the same as the rest?

I’ve no doubt it will, but there was issue with the data AZ presented and I’m not sure where they are with re-submitting.

They know it works it’s just box ticking

What doesn’t help is this “its payback for brexit” line when it comes to europe.
 


Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
55,575
Back in Sussex
It surely should be cleared up. After all, the reason these jabs have not been approved is that the EU and/or the USA have not done the tests to prove they are safe to inject. There isn't any doubt that people who have been injected (and survived) are significantly better or worse protected than people who had other jabs.

Not quite, no - Astra Zeneca have not even submitted their vaccine for approval in the US yet.

The last item of news on this was that they were mulling going for full approval rather than seeking EUA first.

Frankly, I'm not sure why they'd waste the time and effort - the US is over-flowing with vaccines and they have no need for AZ.
 




nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,523
Gods country fortnightly
If that is for the islands the cases are linked to mainland Spain and not brits abroad

Also

From 2 July, the Spanish government requires all arrivals to Spain from the UK to present on entry one of the following: a negative COVID-19 test; or proof of vaccination. See Testing and vaccination requirements for arrivals from the UK for details.

July 2 is too late, they've been letting people in untested, unvax'd for weeks - cases now increasing more than us (80% last 7 days)

I know they were desperate, but their season looks seriously in peril now as people in power made stupid decisions.
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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July 2 is too late, they've been letting people in untested, unvax'd for weeks - cases now increasing more than us (80% last 7 days)

I know they were desperate, but their season looks seriously in peril now as people in power made stupid decisions.

With the cases linked back elsewhere.....
 


studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
29,555
On the Border
A possible fly in the ointment for some (paper talk?)

Up to five million Britons face being locked out of European holidays because their vaccines are not recognised by the EU's passport scheme, the Telegraph has learned.


Brilliant, the whole time during the vaccine rollout, the UK Government were playing up the Oxford element of the dose, and then kept quiet that 5 million doses where made in India.
I'm sure that the blue wall with be pleased with this.
 




nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,523
Gods country fortnightly
With the cases linked back elsewhere.....

I'm not sure how many Brits have travelled to Spain in the last few weeks.

But for anyone on furlough £15 fares with no need for even a test is too good to resist, especially with the weather being shit.
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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I'm not sure how many Brits have travelled to Spain in the last few weeks.

But for anyone on furlough £15 fares with no need for even a test is too good to resist, especially with the weather being shit.

Right, but you made out it was down to the brits travelling when its not, it’s the Spanish - so how many brits travelling there is irrelevant.

And you need a test to get in and back to the U.K, or be fully vaccinated to get into Spain.
 



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