crodonilson
He/Him
It's an absolute shambles but one thing is pleasing that the vast majority according to surveys will continue to wear their masks and hopefully peer pressure will make those determined to ditch theirs see sense.
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It's an absolute shambles but one thing is pleasing that the vast majority according to surveys will continue to wear their masks and hopefully peer pressure will make those determined to ditch theirs see sense.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Yes it’s good that they are allowing us to make our own judgement whilst ‘encouraging’
dsr-burnley
Well-known member
- Aug 15, 2014
- 2,189
The problem now is that the supermarkets and local authorities will insist on masks until the government says all clear, and the government will say that there are no restrictions and it's up to the supermarkets and local authorities, and no-one will dare say "that's it, let's get on with it".
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
They can’t insist and according to Tesco’s staff won’t be approaching you..so up to the I
Individual..the only side that will be enforceable is the traffic light system
Ps I’m not disagreeing with you
crodonilson
He/Him
I really can't believe people have such an issue with wearing a mask in enclosed and crowded places currently when there is so much covid around. For you half an hour or less weekly shop?? To help protect people and stop the spread?? I think for many masks will be here to stay permanently and for a great majority they will probably be here through the Autumn and Winter but if we get through to next spring and cases will hopefully be a small fraction of what they are now then I see no reason why supermarkets would then request masks, it will very much be up to individuals.
crodonilson
He/Him
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
I'm no supporter of the Torys but... who cares if they're not wearing masks
Sajid Javid
crodonilson
He/Him
Absolute disgrace in a packed enclosed space that so many MPs who should be leading by example as we enter our 4th wave, go mask less. Never have our MPs been held in so much contempt by their people.
dsr-burnley
Well-known member
- Aug 15, 2014
- 2,189
Not by all the people, crodo. Yes, there are people who believe that all possbile precautions should be taken against covid regardless of other considerations. And there are people who believe that coronavirus has become just another illness that requires reasonable precautions that do not impact too much on daily life and that wearing masks is not reasonable in respect of the benefits it gives.
I was at Accrington last weekend watching the football and didn't wear a mask. Nor did anyone else - it stood out, when the physio ran onto the field, that it was the first mask I had seen all day. It's true those people were out of doors, but it was out of doors under a low roof. I don't know if stats exist to show whether a crowd out of doors under a low roof is more or less infectious than a crowd indoors under a high roof - but it's going to be a fine line. Certainly too fine a line to say that those football fans, maskless, under a low roof will feel contempt for MPs, maskless, under a high roof.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
My 17 year old grandson went to a festival last weekend and now has covid. He is quite ill with it. There is a need for masks, as youngsters haven't been vaccinated yet,
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
The masks debate has been a bit of a nonsense for a long time. There's hardly any scientific research behind it, Trish Greenhalgh seems to be the best source of info even though she's completely biased.
From what I've read the standard type mask that everyone puts on will only help if you're coughing as it stops droplets coming out of your mouth/nose. It won't stop covid in it's aerosol form, the only thing that will is a properly fitted ffp3 mask that is sealed around your face and can't be removed. People seem to think they're fully protected because they've got a loosely fitting piece of cloth in front of their mouth that's letting their breath go around the sides.
Unless you've got symptoms it's pointless and if you have got symptoms you shouldn't be going near people in the first place!
From what I've read the standard type mask that everyone puts on will only help if you're coughing as it stops droplets coming out of your mouth/nose. It won't stop covid in it's aerosol form, the only thing that will is a properly fitted ffp3 mask that is sealed around your face and can't be removed. People seem to think they're fully protected because they've got a loosely fitting piece of cloth in front of their mouth that's letting their breath go around the sides.
Unless you've got symptoms it's pointless and if you have got symptoms you shouldn't be going near people in the first place!
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
It doesn't really matter if my grandson is ill, and he is. He's also vulnerable having been hospitalised twice with asthma when he was younger.
Wearing masks protects others and is responsible. Some other person passed the virus to him and he is ill.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
When you talk, you expel air from your mouth, which is why singing was banned for a while as it expels the droplets further than just talking. That's why the six foot gap was advised. It doesn't have to be coughing.
Masks do not protect the wearer but do protect people near the wearer. Doctors don't wear masks in theatre to protect themselves, they wear them to protect the patient on the table.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/368/6498/1422
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Yes, we should wear masks until the vast majority of the public are vaccinated. Herd immunity is achieved by vaccination not survival of the fittest.
I do know the risks of walking downstairs or crossing road having brought up children and as a grandmother to three. Don’t patronise me.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Sorry but ..there’s science we can all quote to support what we think and personally I’ve not worn one since July 18th …having said that if I was in say a packed train for a long period of time I would consider it
Still it’s an opinion and you of course are welcome to yours without patronisation
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The reference to being patronised wasn’t to do with wearing masks.
How often do you test yourself?
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
That backs up what I'm saying. The cheap masks only stop coughs, they don't stop the aerosols that come out when air is expelled. They aren't protecting the wearer or people around them from aerosol transmission.
The aerosols are stopped by properly fitted FFP3 masks, this is what they're wearing on the covid wards and they are there to protect the wearer.