Masks

Cheshire Cat · Apr 18, 2020

If these become compulsory or recommended as some media reports today suggested, where are you supposed to find one/some/howevermanyyouneed.

I thought they were supposed to be ineffective anyway.

Titanic · Apr 18, 2020

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52312906

Sadiq Khan thinks it is a good idea.

UK public health experts are not currently recommending the use of face-coverings.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51205344

The World Health Organization (WHO) says it remains the case that medical masks should be reserved for healthcare workers, not the general public.

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/de...tage-surgical-masks-respirators2020-03-26.pdf

European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control:

Available evidence shows that they are less protective than surgical masks and may
even increase the risk of infection due to moisture, liquid diffusion and retention of the virus. Penetration of
particles through cloth is reported to be high. In one study, 40–90% of particles penetrated the mask. In a cluster
randomised controlled trial, cases of influenza-like illness and laboratory-confirmed viral illness were significantly
higher among healthcare workers using cloth masks compared to the ones using surgical masks

Altogether, common fabric cloth masks are not considered protective against respiratory viruses and their use
should not be encouraged.

Bold Seagull · Apr 18, 2020

You own a pair of pants don't you?

AmexRuislip · Apr 18, 2020

Titanic said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52312906

Sadiq Khan thinks it is a good idea.

UK public health experts are not currently recommending the use of face-coverings.

The World Health Organization (WHO) says it remains the case that medical masks should be reserved for healthcare workers, not the general public.

He'll be wearing his, whilst working from home

Bold Seagull · Apr 18, 2020

Paper towel, paper, 2 elastic bands, stapler, job done...

wehatepalace · Apr 18, 2020

vegster · Apr 18, 2020

I have seen an increasing number of people wandering around wearing them these days, absolutely no idea where they can be bought currently while the NHS says they are crying out for PPE ?

Diablo · Apr 18, 2020

vegster said:
I have seen an increasing number of people wandering around wearing them these days, absolutely no idea where they can be bought currently while the NHS says they are crying out for PPE ?

IMO anyone wandering the streets wearing one is robbing the people who really need them.

beorhthelm · Apr 18, 2020

Cheshire Cat said:
If these become compulsory or recommended as some media reports today suggested, where are you supposed to find one/some/howevermanyyouneed.

and this is why it would be daft to recommend them, let alone compulsory. its also irresponsible to redirect supplies away from those that need them for protection from persistent contact, or non-medical use such as construction. its really very easy to abide by some social distancing and not make them necessary.

daveinplzen · Apr 18, 2020

Illegal not to wear a mask here, potential 20k kc fine if you are stopped not wearing one. Dont know if they are effective or not, but from what I have read, more people have died in Brighton than Czech Republic. We were issued with them almost immediately at work, you can buy them in chemists, and a cottage industry of people making them has emerged and its become almost a fashion accessory. Its only necessary to cover you face. Could be a scarf, doesnt have to be an actual mask, just as long as you are covered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_WxtSavZR4

Billy the Fish · Apr 18, 2020

I've got one of these from when I was doing loads of sanding at home. Got to be better than a dodgy bit of cloth.

3m-4251-reusable-dust-mask-a1p2-filters-3314-p-1024x1024.jpg

Swansman · Apr 18, 2020

daveinplzen said:
Illegal not to wear a mask here, potential 20k kc fine if you are stopped not wearing one. Dont know if they are effective or not, but from what I have read, more people have died in Brighton than Czech Republic. We were issued with them almost immediately at work, you can buy them in chemists, and a cottage industry of people making them has emerged and its become almost a fashion accessory. Its only necessary to cover you face. Could be a scarf, doesnt have to be an actual mask, just as long as you are covered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_WxtSavZR4

I'd do most things she ask me for so I might get myself a mask.

A1X · Apr 18, 2020

I call this look "IRA chic"

GT49er · Apr 18, 2020

Diablo said:
IMO anyone wandering the streets wearing one is robbing the people who really need them.

They're not PPE. They might just reduce the chance of the wearer passing on the virus to others, but they offer little or no protection to the wearers. They do make the wearers look like posh people signalling that they don't like having to share Tescos with common people though. Takes all sorts, I guess.

GT49er · Apr 18, 2020

daveinplzen said:
Illegal not to wear a mask here, potential 20k kc fine if you are stopped not wearing one. Dont know if they are effective or not, but from what I have read, more people have died in Brighton than Czech Republic. We were issued with them almost immediately at work, you can buy them in chemists, and a cottage industry of people making them has emerged and its become almost a fashion accessory. Its only necessary to cover you face. Could be a scarf, doesnt have to be an actual mask, just as long as you are covered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_WxtSavZR4

Bit like they did in the trenches in the first world war when under gas attack then. Worked (sort of) OK, but only if you soaked them in piss first. Wonder if that works as well against viruses as it did with chlorine gas? Well, I guess they'll find out ............................................

daveinplzen · Apr 18, 2020

GT49er said:
Bit like they did in the trenches in the first world war when under gas attack then. Worked (sort of) OK, but only if you soaked them in piss first. Wonder if that works as well against viruses as it did with chlorine gas? Well, I guess they'll find out ............................................

Seems to have been part of the success against this thing here.They locked down pretty quickly, and masks were made compulsory with a heavy fine if ignored. I thought it was draconian at first and moaned, but I cant deny it has been somewhat successful.

Really, its no big deal to comply for a bit, and now think that its selfish not to wear one. Bit of, 'im an individual, **** everybody else. Its really not a hardship for something that is possibly a life saver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Cp72tfeXc

ManOfSussex · Apr 19, 2020

I'm indifferent as to whether they offer me or others protection, but I reluctantly ordered one from https://www.ukmeds.co.uk/ a few days ago in anticipation of them becoming a future requirement.

Whether or when it even turns up delivered is a different matter.

pearl · Apr 19, 2020

I saw a young family yesterday all wearing what looked like handmade masks. Dad was carrying baby. Baby wore a little patterned mask.

I kept well away from them

Titanic · Apr 19, 2020

daveinplzen said:
Seems to have been part of the success against this thing here.They locked down pretty quickly, and masks were made compulsory with a heavy fine if ignored. I thought it was draconian at first and moaned, but I cant deny it has been somewhat successful.

When you say 'success'... what is going to happen when they relax the lockdown? Presumably more people will be exposed to the virus again. It isn't just going to go away, is it?

daveinplzen · Apr 19, 2020

Titanic said:
When you say 'success'... what is going to happen when they relax the lockdown? Presumably more people will be exposed to the virus again. It isn't just going to go away, is it?

No clue, but they seemed to have got it right so far and stemmed it. will have to wait and see. First easing of restriction starts tomorrow. No change regarding masks. Now after over a month of them, I dont understand peoples objection to them. Why are people rejecting them exactly?

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