[Sussex] Please help save High Salvington Mill!

Artois · Apr 8, 2020

Hello friends, if anyone has a few minutes, I'd greatly love your help.

My sister volunteers at High Salvington Mill in Worthing. It's a Grade II listed 270 year old windmill that has been restored over many years to be a fully working again. High Salvington Mill Wikipedia Page

A house next door has put in planning permission for an enormous extension that will stop the wind flow to the windmill and essentially kill it off.

They tried a year ago and it got rejected, as did their appeal. Now a year has passed, they are trying again, albeit with slight amendments.

This was the appeal decision notice and explanations from last year.
This is a letter from the Society for Protection of Ancient Buildings explaining about the windflow issue if anyone is interested.

If anyone would be willing to help by objecting to this, a lot of people would be very grateful indeed. This is the link to the application: Planning Application, you can go to the 'comments' tab and object there.

The closing date for comments is today

Many, many thanks x

wellquickwoody · Apr 8, 2020

A house next door has plans for an extension? Windmill has about as much relevance today as Shire horses in my view. I wish you well but feel that there may be more pressing issues in the world right now.

Springal · Apr 8, 2020

wellquickwoody said:
A house next door has plans for an extension? Windmill has about as much relevance today as Shire horses in my view. I wish you well but feel that there may be more pressing issues in the world right now.

If the neighbours bought the house before the windmill I'd accept that. But moving in and then trying this shit on is ridiculous. A bit like people that move near pubs / nightclubs and complain about noise!

Superphil · Apr 8, 2020

Psychobilly freakout · Apr 8, 2020

Top of the hill problem, people probably more concerned about the value of their houses if the truth be known.

thedonkeycentrehalf · Apr 8, 2020

Thanks for putting this up - I only walked past there the other day on my daily stroll. Always try to get up for the annual open day to support the volunteers.

Objection now submitted. Always interesting to see the public objections and supporters. I'm assuming the supporters from Shoreham and Rustington are friends of the house owners.

Artois · Apr 8, 2020

Superphil said:
Done

Thanks Phil matey :smile:

Artois · Apr 8, 2020

thedonkeycentrehalf said:
Thanks for putting this up - I only walked past there the other day on my daily stroll. Always try to get up for the annual open day to support the volunteers.

Objection now submitted. Always interesting to see the public objections and supporters. I'm assuming the supporters from Shoreham and Rustington are friends of the house owners.

You've got to assume that the supporters are friends of the owners. There's no other reason.

Thanks for submitting, hugely appreciated :smile:

m@goo · Apr 8, 2020

I assume the house is the one I've boxed in this picture?

Not being funny but it would have to be a bloody huge extension to reduce windflow wouldn't it? As in the size of another house?

Bozza · Apr 8, 2020

I live just down the hill from the windmill and go past it many times a week either walking the dog or running, and I can’t recall ever seeing the windmill operational.

In related news I know the people who live in the house in question - not friends in anyway.

We had to live for a short period of time in a rented house in another part of Worthing, before moving to Findon. We only ever reached smiling/ saying “hello” terms with our neighbours and didn’t think I’d ever see them again when we moved. They bought that house.

Mr Putdown · Apr 8, 2020

m@goo said:
I assume the house is the one I've boxed in this picture?

Not being funny but it would have to be a bloody huge extension to reduce windflow wouldn't it? As in the size of another house?

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You do realise that the windmill isn’t fixed facing that way?

Bozza · Apr 8, 2020

Mr Putdown said:
You do realise that the windmill isn’t fixed facing that way?

The prevailing wind is from that direction and the windmill is generally, but not always, facing that way.

Mr Putdown · Apr 8, 2020

Bozza said:
The prevailing wind is from that direction and the windmill is generally, but not always, facing that way.

Yup, like I said, it’s not fixed facing that way.

Hence why any extension to that property could well impact any operation of the mill, despite what that picture infers.

m@goo · Apr 9, 2020

Mr Putdown said:
You do realise that the windmill isn’t fixed facing that way?

Ok so the wind is already blocked by the house from the NW if it were to face that way. It would still have to be an exceptionally large extension to block the wind from the SW? And as mentioned by Bozza, I've never seen it working either whenever I've gone past it.

I'm reall ynot trying to be an arse, it's just looking at it on Google maps I can't see how an extension would block the wind unless they literally built another big house?

Brok · Apr 9, 2020

docs.adur-worthing.gov.uk/NorthgatePublicDocs/02180097.pdf

One Teddy Maybank · Apr 9, 2020

Just because it doesn't work on a daily basis, should a landmark be compromised by a new building?

It's not just this building, it's the others previously built that have gradually restricted wind-flow, and this will be a further 'nail in the coffin', in terms of functionality.

The windmill is used and is run by volunteers, open in the summer for tours, and you can purchase flour.

I am surprised NSC-ers are having so much difficulty with this.......

Objection raised.

One Teddy Maybank · Apr 9, 2020

Mr Putdown said:
Yup, like I said, it’s not fixed facing that way.

Hence why any extension to that property could well impact any operation of the mill, despite what that picture infers.

Quite - the windmill is rotated depending on the direction of the wind.

It might be worth a few NSCers actually visiting, and going on one of the tours (every other Sunday in the summer from 2pm), to widen their knowledge base.

Westdene Seagull · Apr 9, 2020

The Wiki page says it's "in full working order" not actually a working mill. Which is correct ? If the former then I would have an issue with the house extension - if the latter then PP should be approved ( subject to other considerations ). Sounds a bit like Blatchington Mill Windmill - it's in working order and on open days it grinds wheat but it's not a going concern.

Chief Wiggum · Apr 9, 2020

I grew up at High Salvington in the 60's and 70's. The windmill was derelict then and was our (the local kids) hideout and adventure playground. I'm amazed none of us were badly hurt. It was in a right state and close to falling down. To see it restored over the years, functional and working is something quite special in this day and age. Petition signed.

Giraffe · Apr 9, 2020

Sadly only just seen this so can't object. I know the windmill well and funnily enough the house as well as looked round it when it was up for sale a few years ago. Didn't buy it for lots of reasons but living next to the mill was definitely an attraction. It's a local landmark and should be preserved as best it can.

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