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Official Old Man

Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
8,544
Brighton
Out of interest, if someone accepts a credit note and the company then goes bust, is the note of any value?
On insurance, my Natwest account inclusive insurance has just changed to not include the virus.
 




Beach Hut

Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
71,963
Living In a Box
I remember the good times said:
Out of interest, if someone accepts a credit note and the company then goes bust, is the note of any value?
On insurance, my Natwest account inclusive insurance has just changed to not include the virus.
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The credit note would be worthless if the company goes bust hence request monetary refund.

My Direct Line Travel insurance has changed as well
 


Marty___Mcfly

Marty___Mcfly

I see your wicked plan - I’m a junglist.
Sep 14, 2011
2,251
andy1980 said:
On the evening Argus it says that the foreign office has just announced we should postpone all foreign travel indefinitely.

The article states that this effectively means holidays are cancelled. I don't know how truthful that is, but that's what it says.
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The foreign office did tweet that but the implications are unclear. It seems the airlines and holiday companies will now have to set timescales themselves- e.g. cancel all booking for the next 14 days and issue refunds up to then. Seems like it will lead to inconsistencies between companies.

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andy1980

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Feb 23, 2009
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Marty___Mcfly said:
The foreign office did tweet that but the implications are unclear. It seems the airlines and holiday companies will now have to set timescales themselves- e.g. cancel all booking for the next 14 days and issue refunds up to then. Seems like it will lead to inconsistencies between companies.

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Mad isn't it I;m meant to be going to Greece in 10 weeks. One of us that is going to go is in her 70s. Even if they lift it by then, will it be safe for her?
 


Weststander

Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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I remember the good times said:
Out of interest, if someone accepts a credit note and the company then goes bust, is the note of any value?
On insurance, my Natwest account inclusive insurance has just changed to not include the virus.
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You would be listed as a creditor, but in the group at the bottom of the pile, so would receive nowt.
 




Weststander

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Kinky Gerbils said:
I’m going with flights starting up again mid June

It’s not going to be much longer till places like Vegas/Disney etc really ramp up the pressure on trump

It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out
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But Americans and American politicians will be very against foreigners in their minds coming in to infect them. It will take a long time before European holidaymakers can simply fly into Orlando, LA or Vegas and start their holiday.
 


patchamalbion

patchamalbion

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Feb 26, 2009
6,011
brighton
I’ve got worldwide travel insurance covering the whole summer but haven’t checked terms yet,

We were supposed to be at a wedding in Greece and I had a weekend in Bilbao for the Euros and both are booked through booking.com and look to be non-refundable!
 


Marty___Mcfly

Marty___Mcfly

I see your wicked plan - I’m a junglist.
Sep 14, 2011
2,251
I remember the good times said:
Out of interest, if someone accepts a credit note and the company then goes bust, is the note of any value?
On insurance, my Natwest account inclusive insurance has just changed to not include the virus.
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I did read that credit notes would be ATOL protected if that applies to the original booking. Not sure how that would pan out though if lots of companies go bust.
 




The Wookiee

The Wookiee

Back From The Dead
Nov 10, 2003
14,850
Worthing
I was booked to go to Turkey at the end of March, this was cancelled and Travel Republic said they would issue a credit note, however I have now been given the option of a refund, which I have requested. How long it will take I don’t know.
 


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Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
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Weststander said:
But Americans and American politicians will be very against foreigners in their minds coming in to infect them. It will take a long time before European holidaymakers can simply fly into Orlando, LA or Vegas and start their holiday.
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This is why I think it’s going to get interesting

Some of the politicians will, but some will want to start making money and appeasing donors again
 


Paulie Gualtieri

Paulie Gualtieri

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May 8, 2018
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I have a trip to the Isle of Wright booked for May.

They have advised for April bookers (resort currently closed) that they can either re-book for the current year or next year.

Waiting to see if mine is cancelled, expect it will be although I would rather have the full case refund. I paid the balance by credit card for section 75 protection.

I appreciate I need them to cancel otherwise I am at the mercy of their cancellation policy however can anyone advise if I am
In my right to get a full cash refund either directly or through the card (if the resort refuses?)

Thanks


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Tom Hark Preston Park

Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,156
Guinness Boy said:
Supposed to be off to Cyprus this month, also not heard anything from TUI. I read Simon Calder, the Independent's Travel Editor, piece that said that refunds no longer had to be given and a credit note for future travel would be issued but can't find it now on a search.
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Is this the piece?

https://www.independent.co.uk/trave...e-warning-fco-uk-government-a9448986.html?amp

'The Independent’s travel correspondent Simon Calder advises paying up the full balance where possible.

He says: “It may sound counter-intuitive to pay out more money to guarantee either a holiday or your money back, but that is the way the system works

“If the trip is cancelled, you can expect a full refund of the whole cost of the trip – even if you have to wait some time.

“Deciding not to pay the balance would mean that you lose the deposit – and, even if the trip is subsequently cancelled, you cannot get the money back.”.
 


Weststander

Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Kinky Gerbils said:
This is why I think it’s going to get interesting

Some of the politicians will, but some will want to start making money and appeasing donors again
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That’s already happened and happening, interestingly from normally contrasting political viewpoints.

Business and money obsessed Trump can’t bear this, he’s want America back to normal with weeks.

Sweden’s PM and their chief epidemiologist are refusing to put Sweden in a British style lockdown, deeming the damage to their economy (and mental health) would be more damaging and longterm.
 






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Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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Weststander said:
That’s already happened and happening, interestingly from normally contrasting political viewpoints.

Business and money obsessed Trump can’t bear this, he’s want America back to normal with weeks.

Sweden’s PM and their chief epidemiologist are refusing to put Sweden in a British style lockdown, deeming the damage to their economy (and mental health) would be more damaging and longterm.
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I actually agree with the Swedish PM - the fall out will have more impact that the virus.

Another reason I think things will be up and running faster than people think.

As with millions others I’ve had a holiday affected - I’ve been mulling over what it would take for me to go - If there was a test to show I was all clear when home I would go if they opened Vegas up again.
 


Weststander

Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Kinky Gerbils said:
I actually agree with the Swedish PM - the fall out will have more impact that the virus.

Another reason I think things will be up and running faster than people think.

As with millions others I’ve had a holiday affected - I’ve been mulling over what it would take for me to go - If there was a test to show I was all clear when home I would go if they opened Vegas up again.
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I’m undecided on that. Once the final dust settles, if far more Swedes have died with COVID per capita than Danes or Norwegians, OR VICE VERSA, it will certainly be a talking point.

I know it’s First World, but I do look forward to holidaying again. For those who survive this in body and financially, we’ll certainly appreciate all the things we took for granted.
 


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Balders

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Aug 19, 2013
282
Beach Hut said:
The credit note would be worthless if the company goes bust hence request monetary refund.

My Direct Line Travel insurance has changed as well
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This is the grey area currently - ABTA have "advised" that any Refund Credit Note issued by an ABTA member would carry their full protection. Wording on these credits is key, it doesn't appear to include Vouchers. There is also the thought that any credit note attached to an ATOL booking would be protected bt ATOL but the CAA who administer ATOL have yet to update their regulations.

I guess most of it, like most things in travel at the moment, is conjecture and we will only know for definite once it is actually tested.

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Apr 28, 2019
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Worthing
Technically, I'm sure Simon Calder is right but I have cancelled the two outstanding payments due on my credit card and am quite prepared to argue it out with my travel agent and/or use S75 claim rather than fork out some £2.5k for a holiday to Dubai in June which is highly unlikely to be possible and argue the toss over travel vouchers for a holiday I'm highly unlikely to want at all now!

Prefer to have a bird in the hand (so to speak) than two in the bush....!
 






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Balders

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Aug 19, 2013
282
Recidivist said:
Technically, I'm sure Simon Calder is right but I have cancelled the two outstanding payments due on my credit card and am quite prepared to argue it out with my travel agent and/or use S75 claim rather than fork out some £2.5k for a holiday to Dubai in June which is highly unlikely to be possible and argue the toss over travel vouchers for a holiday I'm highly unlikely to want at all now!

Prefer to have a bird in the hand (so to speak) than two in the bush....!
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This is the absurdity of the situation and I'm unaware of who and how you booked it, but if your holiday has not officially been cancelled, then normal T&Cs could apply and this may be classed as a standard cancellation and subject to normal cancellation charges if you've stopped payment. Therefore S75 wouldn't apply and Simon Calder is correct in this information.

Simple rule is unless officially cancelled, carry on as normal.

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