[Football] Where now for football?

Hamilton · Mar 30, 2020

So what does football do now?

What role does it have to play in our communities at a time where we can't meet to enjoy the game or play it? What role does the club play? What role does the FA, Premier League and EFL play?

It feels like football needs to find its purpose.

Normally, its purpose is to serve up games that we can entertain and play a role in the community. It still needs to entertain and play a role in the community, but how?

I know clubs are doing things individually, but what's football's role now?

The Rattler · Mar 30, 2020

Same as it ever was... give sh!t-loads if money to the likes of Grealish to act like c0cks.

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Tom Hark Preston Park · Mar 30, 2020

Who overly cares? Football will gradually get back on its feet like the rest of the world. Tho hopefully society will re-evaluate the worth of the people within that society. And it sure as hell won't value ****s like Jack Grealish

Hamilton · Mar 30, 2020

Tom Hark said:
Who overly cares? Football will gradually get back on its feet like the rest of the world. Tho hopefully society will re-evaluate the worth of the people within that society. And it sure as hell won't value ****s like Jack Grealish

Perhaps this is another opportunity to wrestle control of whatever the game should mean back from overpaid players and money men?

Tim Over Whelmed · Mar 30, 2020

One thing I can see emerging is a drift towards Tier 7 football and below, I think these clubs are now waking up and engaging with communities more and they are at a level whereby people can relate to them and afford to follow them

Hamilton · Mar 30, 2020

Tim Over Whelmed said:
One thing I can see emerging is a drift towards Tier 7 football and below, I think these clubs are now waking up and engaging with communities more and they are at a level whereby people can relate to them and afford to follow them

Very true. Maybe people will want to connect even more with their true local community. I went to see a non-league game for the first time and realised I just loved watching football - being there. Yes I love top class skill, but I also just like being a part of something.

Swansman · Mar 30, 2020

Right now its role is to play dead.

When this is over, it will need to be moving in a completely different direction. The absurd money, the eternal milking of the "customers", 18 year old rookies driving fancy cars... all of that will be very difficult to do again, at least short term.

This is a global trauma. A lot of people will have rough economical situations for years. Underfunding of NHS and similar wont be tolerated the way it was. The "free market" bullshit who always wore the "reduce the size/power of the state" is going to be dead in the water or a long time. Promotion tours to Saudi Arabia, the fat TV deals, big players transfers, increases in ticket prices... dead.

People would not only dislike it, they would be disgusted. Possibly to the point where they acted according to their opinions (!).

I expect, even at the highest level, football will get a bit closer to its roots. At least it will start to orbit earth again. Its also going to be interesting to see what the very likely complete destruction of football tourism (for a few years) could do to the relations between clubs and the local communities.

essbee1 · Mar 30, 2020

Tim Over Whelmed said:
One thing I can see emerging is a drift towards Tier 7 football and below, I think these clubs are now waking up and engaging with communities more and they are at a level whereby people can relate to them and afford to follow them

This. If the PL pursue this silly idea that they have to finish the fixtures at all costs (even behind closed doors), then to
me (imho) it shows that all they really care about is getting the tv money/not losing their fat cat sums and I won't be persuaded
that it is for any other reason.

If they *do* do that - then I'll seriously consider whether I want to be part of the whole thing. I'll go and watch Wealdstone on a Saturday
instead. The standard might be pretty rough, but at least it's relatively honest.

Tom Hark Preston Park · Mar 30, 2020

essbee1 said:
This. If the PL pursue this silly idea that they have to finish the fixtures at all costs (even behind closed doors), then to
me (imho) it shows that all they really care about is getting the tv money/not losing their fat cat sums and I won't be persuaded
that it is for any other reason.

If they *do* do that - then I'll seriously consider whether I want to be part of the whole thing. I'll go and watch Wealdstone on a Saturday
instead. The standard might be pretty rough, but at least it's relatively honest.

Think a huge amount of it depends on whether the broadcasting corporations that throw obscene amounts of money at the top few tiers of the game survive or not. If they don't, there's a very large number of mediocre footballers who won't be having ludicrously large chunks of money thrown at them again anytime soon :wave:

hans kraay fan club · Mar 30, 2020

essbee1 said:
This. If the PL pursue this silly idea that they have to finish the fixtures at all costs (even behind closed doors), then to
me (imho) it shows that all they really care about is getting the tv money/not losing their fat cat sums and I won't be persuaded
that it is for any other reason.

If they *do* do that - then I'll seriously consider whether I want to be part of the whole thing. I'll go and watch Wealdstone on a Saturday
instead. The standard might be pretty rough, but at least it's relatively honest.

I'm not disagreeing with your sentiment - but a point of order here: Wealdstone's own league (National League South) are also still currently pursuing the idea that they have to 'finish the fixtures at all costs'.

Tim Over Whelmed · Mar 30, 2020

essbee1 said:
This. If the PL pursue this silly idea that they have to finish the fixtures at all costs (even behind closed doors), then to
me (imho) it shows that all they really care about is getting the tv money/not losing their fat cat sums and I won't be persuaded
that it is for any other reason.

If they *do* do that - then I'll seriously consider whether I want to be part of the whole thing. I'll go and watch Wealdstone on a Saturday
instead. The standard might be pretty rough, but at least it's relatively honest.

I agree.

I can walk to Arundel and pay £6 to get in, grab a beer, and watch my Son play.

Stat Brother · Mar 30, 2020

I do feel sorry for future generations and the rosy specced of today.

Great swathes of the planet has been put on hold.
That in turn has saved money, halted the worst kinds of environmental damage seems to be edging towards some kind of weird, giving, socialist Eutopia.

Yet in a year's time NOTHING will have changed.

If anything we'll be 10 times worse as we attempt to repay the 1%'ers.

Generations to come will despair of the 2020's.

southstandandy · Mar 30, 2020

Just re-develop the game for next season where no player can get within 2 metres of an opononent. Less risk of injury as there would be no tackling!

beorhthelm · Mar 30, 2020

no sure football has any role. its purpose is to entertain, nothing more, so when it returns it will entertain, until then its in hibernation.

Jim Van Winkle · Mar 30, 2020

Swansman said:
Right now its role is to play dead.

When this is over, it will need to be moving in a completely different direction. The absurd money, the eternal milking of the "customers", 18 year old rookies driving fancy cars... all of that will be very difficult to do again, at least short term.

This is a global trauma. A lot of people will have rough economical situations for years. Underfunding of NHS and similar wont be tolerated the way it was. The "free market" bullshit who always wore the "reduce the size/power of the state" is going to be dead in the water or a long time. Promotion tours to Saudi Arabia, the fat TV deals, big players transfers, increases in ticket prices... dead.

People would not only dislike it, they would be disgusted. Possibly to the point where they acted according to their opinions (!).

I expect, even at the highest level, football will get a bit closer to its roots. At least it will start to orbit earth again. Its also going to be interesting to see what the very likely complete destruction of football tourism (for a few years) could do to the relations between clubs and the local communities.

Your best yet and finally something I agree with you on.

I hope after all this it has been a positive time of reflection for a lot of people and what they now value most in life changes for the positive.

Jim Van Winkle · Mar 30, 2020

Stat Brother said:
I do feel sorry for future generations and the rosy specced of today.

Great swathes of the planet has been put on hold.
That in turn has saved money, halted the worst kinds of environmental damage seems to be edging towards some kind of weird, giving, socialist Eutopia.

Yet in a year's time NOTHING will have changed.

If anything we'll be 10 times worse as we attempt to repay the 1%'ers.

Generations to come will despair of the 2020's.

You’re right - it will suck for us in the short term but for the next generation the income and inequality gap will widen in the U.K. and US to the top 1% for sure.

Barham's tash · Mar 30, 2020

Hamilton said:
Perhaps this is another opportunity to wrestle control of whatever the game should mean back from overpaid players and money men?

We’ll never have a better chance.

If the Premier League does this mooted super summer training ground live stream **** fest whilst any type of lock down/distancing is still in effect then I for one will bow out. ( https://twitter.com/independent/status/1244590611916828673?s=21 )

Someone has to make a stand against the greed and bullshit we’re so often forced to swallow - VAR, kick off times, ticket prices etc - and if any chairmen/owners had an ounce of integrity they’d stand up against another vile showing of gluttony this represents.

If a single player gets injured and forces the health service to deflect from the greater good then it can sod the hell off. The article even talks about the need to take over an entire hospital of its own ffs. What complete and total bollocks.

sparkie · Mar 30, 2020

I'm not bothering with this behind closed doors, Football In Name Only season continuation.

I won't watch it, nor take any interest in the results.

I'll ignore it, and if it means we are in a lower league because of it next season, well, I'll just be pretty disillusioned.

giveusfalmerplease · Mar 30, 2020

i can see a short-term (3 years or so) Super-tax for anyone earning over say 250k to help the economy to recover. I think 66% would be fair...

giveusfalmerplease · Mar 30, 2020

just seen that twitter link - clearly they didnt see my suggestion. Play all the remaining fixtures in China - as that will be first to recover - and live stream to the world. All profits to be shared between Chinese and UK health services..

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