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Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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Jul 7, 2003
13,118
tokyo
I'm bored. I'm not even on proper lockdown. Tokyo has been told to stay inside this weekend. I'm sure irt's going to morph into full lockdown soon enough though. Anyway, on day two I'm getting cabin fever in my small apartment. So I've resorted to passing the time by listing things. Who doesn't love a good ranking list?!

First up I've ranked all the manic street preacher albums in descending order of greatness. Feel free to add your own lists(doesn't need to be as wordy as mine!). Any topic is ok - music, movies, books etc.

So, here we go:

1) The Holy Bible

Not just the manics' best but IMO one of the best albums of all time. Everything about it - lyrically, sonically, visually - is as close to perfect as it's possible to get. It's a visceral experience - exciting, frightening and strangely comforting all at the same time. Holy bible era manics is exactly the kind of band I'd want to be in. Outstanding album. I don't think an album has had a bigger impact on me.

2) Everything Must Go

A triumph. Released at the swaggering, cheeky peak of 'Britpop' it borrows the glossy sheen of the era but was born and emerges from the tragedy of Richey's disappearance/death. From the depths of despair they fashioned something remarkable and powerful. It gave them the main stream success they'd previously threatened.

3) Generation Terrorists

A glorious debut album. A glorious mess of an album. A riot of noise, ideas and slogans. They claimed they wanted to release a double album sell 16 million copies and retire. It didn't quite work out that way. what they released was a slightly bloated single album that didn't always work but was overflowing with great moments. Motorcycle emptiness, you love us, little baby nothing, stay beautiful. Magnificent.

4) Rewind The Film

The most different of their catalogue. There's barely an electric guitar on it. No swooping anthems or soaring guitar solos. Instead it's a much more gentle, delicate and collaborative affair and all the more beautiful for it.

5)Gold Against the Soul

Here's where it starts getting tricky. The next three albums could all be in any of the positions 5-7. I've gone with this one though as even if it's a little formulaic in the second half and is apparently the manics's least favourite album, I think it's underated and has enough highlights - sleepflower, la tristesse durera, roses in the hospital, from despair to where to warrant its position. Not as political as its predecessor or as raw and eviscerating as its sequel it's nonetheless a fine piece of grandiose anthemoic rock and roll.

6) Journal for Plague Lovers

This feels like the closing of a chapter. Released 15 years after his disappearance the album consists of all Richey lyrics. It's hard not to see it as the follow up/counterpart to The Holy Bible with it being exclusively his words and the artwork being by the same artist as the holy bible. Musically it's not quite as spiky or aggressive as the holy bible but has a similar post punk kind of sound. At times its difficult to not read the lyrics as Richey's suicide note, particularly album closer Williams Last words.

7) This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours

The Album that made them (briefly) superstars. It went to number one in the charts and contains their first number one single. It actually took me a long time to come round to its charms. They took the production sheen of Everything Must Go and polished it to within an inch of its life. I was a big fan of their ferocity and anger so this shiny production was too much to me. As I've got older though I've come round to appreciating it more and more. There are some really quite beautiful songs on the album, particularly in the first half. It could possibly do with being a bit shorter.

8) Futurology

Recorded at the same time as Rewind the film, this album is full of the guitars and noise that they left off its counterpart. It's the 12th album of their career and is the sound of a band in the midst of a creative revival. (unfortunately it didn't last to their 13th album)

9) Postcards From A Young Man

For me this is a continuation of This Is My Truth. Gleaming production gives a glossy sheen to a band that realise they are no longer the young firebrands they once were and are never going to be again. There's a ruefulness to it but also an acceptance of where they are. As such they made an album of mostly glorious, sweeping songs.

10) Send Away The Tigers

The start of the Manics revival after their two previous albums had seen them fall from their peak pretty rapidly. The albums that followed were all better (until number 13...) but this got them out of their trough. They got a bit of zip back into their songs and their mojo back.

11)Know Your Enemy

The follow up to This Is My Truth. It's really not very good. It's overly long and incoherent, has some poor songs on it and has few good ones. Let Robeson Sing is the only one that would get any where near a 'Best Of'.

12) Lifeblood

The follow up to Know Your Enemy. It too isn't very good. It's the sound of a band that clearly knows its way around a song and melody but it lacks inspiration. Glasnost and Solitude Sometimes Is are half decent songs but the rest is pleasant enough but instantly forgettable.

13) Resistance Is Futile

Their most recent album. It brings an end to their creative revival. It's the manics by numbers but sounds like they got the numbers mixed up. About the best thing I can say is that it took me some years to come round to This Is My Truth so maybe this will be similar. I doubt it but you never know. Plus it's not the end of the world to release a duff album 13 albums and 30 years into your career.
 






bhafc99

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Oct 14, 2003
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Dubai
Talking of ranking things in lists, I watched a 2020 remake of Nick Hornby's High Fidelity last week – done as a 10-part series set in New York, and with a female lead (Zoe Kravitz).

It was alright – not great, but certainly watchable enough if anybody's looking for things to pass the time.

It was on Hulu, not sure how that works for UK networks etc.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Talking of ranking things in lists, I watched a 2020 remake of Nick Hornby's High Fidelity last week – done as a 10-part series set in New York, and with a female lead (Zoe Kravitz).

It was alright – not great, but certainly watchable enough if anybody's looking for things to pass the time.

It was on Hulu, not sure how that works for UK networks etc.

I watched the fist couple.

It was just too close to the book and film, leaving me thinking 'what's the point'.
 


Eeyore

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I watched the fist couple.

It was just too close to the book and film, leaving me thinking 'what's the point'.

I saw the fist couple too.

Are you talking about the same thing ? :)
 




vegster

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May 5, 2008
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I could try to rate my Elton John albums in ascending order but only two slight problems...…..

No.1, I never actually bought ALL the albums

No.2, Elton released an album called " 21 at 33 " , the significance of the numbers is that this was Elton's 21st album at the age of 33...… Elton is now 73.
 


Tom Bombadil

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Jul 14, 2003
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Jibrovia
Our household has a dog ranking system.

Muy Bork. The finest specimens of bork. eg wolfhound, husky

Bork. A proper dog with a proper face, like a labrador. not too small, no flat faces

No Bork, a dog that would be Bork, but is too small or has a flat face eg a boxer or a beagle

Seymour. A wiry haired dog that should be owned by a small boy up to no good. Named after the futurama dog. Often a terrier or small mixed breed. Jack Russell count.

Lulu. A useless handbag dog, small probably has a flat face or silly hair, yaps a lot. All poodles
 


Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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Jul 7, 2003
13,118
tokyo
I could try to rate my Elton John albums in ascending order but only two slight problems...…..

No.1, I never actually bought ALL the albums

No.2, Elton released an album called " 21 at 33 " , the significance of the numbers is that this was Elton's 21st album at the age of 33...… Elton is now 73.

The same issue arose with Barbara Cartland novels.
 




Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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Jul 7, 2003
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tokyo
Good list. I wouldn’t argue too much with your ranking of them.

Great live band too.

Aren't they?

I was lucky enough to see them during the Rugby World Cup. They were touring the 20th anniversary of This is my truth. It was also retty much twenty years since I'd first seen them. Played the whole album and then a run through the classics after. They've still got it!
 


Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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Jul 7, 2003
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tokyo
Just finished watching Once Upon A Time In Hollywood so now I can rank all of Tarantino's films. Whoop whoop!

1 Pulp Fiction

Er, you know why. It's a masterpiece.

2 Reservoir Dogs

Another masterpiece, just not quite as good as Pulp Fiction. Not far off though. A dialogue masterclass.

3 Jackie Brown

I can't quite decide if it's a masterpiece but it's a great film nonetheless. The last of his truly great work IMO.

4 The Hateful Eight
Possibly controversial I know but I really liked the hateful 8. It looked beautiful, had great dialogue and for most of its three hours is set in one room but still keeps you(or me, at least) captivated.

5 Kill Bill Vol 1

The first Tarantino film to suggest that everything he touched wouldn't turn to gold. Not that it's a bad film, it's still good, just not at the very high standards of his first three(or True Romance). It does have one of my all time favourite scenes though - the showdown between The Bride and O-ren in the snow covered garden.

6 Once Upon A Time In Hollywood

A star studded cast bring their A-game to a story about a long lost hollywood coupled with the Manson Murders. Apart from the very ending the least violent of Tarantino's movies and a low swear count too.

7 Inglourious Basterds

Can't say I'm a massive fan of this one, I can't get to grips with his take on WWII. Gets seventh spot off the back of a magnificent performance by Christoph Waltz and the tension filled opening sequence.

8 Django Unchained

The good thing about a Tarantino film is you know that it'll have something great somewhere in there, whether it's dialogue, music or cinematography. But...I just found Django unchained a little too long and I'm not sure Tarantino's cartoonish style is great for getting to grips with slavery.

9 Kill Bill vol 2

Essentially Kill Bill vol 2 is Amnesiac to Kill Bill Vol 1's Kid A. It finishes the story told in part one in two hours 17 minutes but all the best bits are in vol 1. You don't need another two hours plus to finish the story. If he added another half hour to vol 1 he'd have had a perfectly good movie still without the need for this one.
 


Rowdey

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Jul 7, 2003
2,536
Herne Hill
I'm bored. I'm not even on proper lockdown. Tokyo has been told to stay inside this weekend. I'm sure irt's going to morph into full lockdown soon enough though. Anyway, on day two I'm getting cabin fever in my small apartment. So I've resorted to passing the time by listing things. Who doesn't love a good ranking list?!

First up I've ranked all the manic street preacher albums in descending order of greatness. Feel free to add your own lists(doesn't need to be as wordy as mine!). Any topic is ok - music, movies, books etc.


7) This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours

The Album that made them (briefly) superstars. It went to number one in the charts and contains their first number one single. It actually took me a long time to come round to its charms. They took the production sheen of Everything Must Go and polished it to within an inch of its life. I was a big fan of their ferocity and anger so this shiny production was too much to me. As I've got older though I've come round to appreciating it more and more. There are some really quite beautiful songs on the album, particularly in the first half. It could possibly do with being a bit shorter.

Lucky enough to go on tour with the Manics 'This is my Truth' (and Catatonia) in Dec 98.
The company i worked for managed to get Holsten Pils to sponsor them directly (about £200k) off top of my head which went directly to them not via manager. In return Holsten could brand every venue, inc bars, band rooms and set up some mahoosive gobo lighting rigs in the arena's.

About 3 weeks before the first gig, then tried to renege on the deal (didnt fit with their 'image' to be seen to have sold out) but they'd spent the money, and couldn't pay it back (with heavy interest) so announced they were actually not drinking for a month anyway (complete bollocks as the stocked fridge in changing rooms would testify)

The Manics kept themselves to themselves all month, while Cery's was great fun (chatting/drinking with roadies etc) but prob not long before breakdown i think..?

Musically (and i was really a dance music only fan till that point) they were amazing - Big production, big noise, big wow factor :bowdown: They ran thro lots of older stuff as well as 'Tolerate' etc
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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Faversham
James Bond full length novels written by Fleming, in descending order (my favourite first):

Diamonds Are Forever
Goldfinger
Moonraker
On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
You Only Live Twice
From Russia, with Love
Casino Royale
Live and Let Die
Dr. No
Thunderball
The Man with the Golden Gun
The Spy Who Loved Me

To be fair, I love all these books and it is very hard to make a selection. Even the last one, in which Bond makes an appearance only at the end, is a decent book
 


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