[Albion] Red Card - Sheff Utd

Kalimantan Gull · Feb 22, 2020

I have to say on first replay I thought, nah... But the more they showed it the more I thought it was going to be a red. It must have been close, one of those that if the ref saw it again in the monitor I think he would have given it.

Handball? Def penalty. Making his body bigger, outside normal silhouette - that's the rule isn't it?

blue-shifted · Feb 22, 2020

Weststander said:
His poor first touch and aftermath never at any stage endangered Lundstram’s safety. Players can still make whole hearted tackles or plays for the ball, as long as they don’t.

The quality of Dunk's control has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with it

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Thunder Bolt · Feb 22, 2020

Kalimantan Gull said:
I have to say on first replay I thought, nah... But the more they showed it the more I thought it was going to be a red. It must have been close, one of those that if the ref saw it again in the monitor I think he would have given it.

Handball? Def penalty. Making his body bigger, outside normal silhouette - that's the rule isn't it?

I was in the car when the penalty shout happened, listening to Warren Aspinall. He said the players left hand was not in a ‘natural position’.

Lower West Stander · Feb 22, 2020

BNthree said:
As I said elsewhere today all VAR does is facilitate more possible errors of judgement. The technology itself does nothing other than enable a human to make a decision. If that decision is wrong then it is still wrong even if technology assisted them in making it. Add in ambiguous wording like clear and obvious error which in itself is open to interpretation and it's just a cluster**** of potential errors.

Well said.

Especially when the clown in charge of it all is Mike Riley who seems to have zero empathy with the nature of the game.

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Icy Gull · Feb 22, 2020

Thunder Bolt said:
I was in the car when the penalty shout happened, listening to Warren Aspinall. He said the players left hand was not in a ‘natural position’.

He was right, he used his hand to stop the ball

I doubt match of the day will spend much time discussing Brighton tonight, it’ll be all about Sheffield United’s charge to the Champion’s League places having a little hiccup

Jim Van Winkle · Feb 22, 2020

Weststander said:
His poor first touch and aftermath never at any stage endangered Lundstram’s safety. Players can still make whole hearted tackles or plays for the ball, as long as they don’t.

That’s because Lundstram is moving out of his way and rides the tackle. I don’t think his intent is for his foot to end where it does.

Weststander · Feb 22, 2020

Jim Van Winkle said:
That’s because Lundstram is moving out of his way and rides the tackle. I don’t think his intent is for his foot to end where it does.

Intent doesn’t come into it.

Rodney Thomas · Feb 22, 2020

Jim Van Winkle said:
That’s because Lundstram is moving out of his way and rides the tackle. I don’t think his intent is for his foot to end where it does.

But it did, so it’s a red.

Nobby · Feb 22, 2020

timbha said:
it's been a bad day for VAR, no, correction it's been a bad day for those idiots earning a fortune at Stockley Park in missing the obvious after numerous viewings. It's become a joke.

It has always been a joke

Weststander · Feb 22, 2020

blue-shifted said:
The quality of Dunk's control has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with it

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A minute minority are claiming Dunk’s challenge was equally dangerous. It wasn’t.

zefarelly · Feb 22, 2020

blue-shifted said:
The quality of Dunk's control has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with it

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Of course it does! The challenge would never have happened otherwise.

Hospital pass, hospital control, nearly a hospital challenge. Thank **** it wasn't.

Our merry go round dart board selection theory has required LD at every juncture.

Back to the OP. . . .I didn't think it was a red. . . .the replays make you wonder though.

paulfuzz · Feb 22, 2020

Definite Pen
Definite Red
Tactics spot on for the game, Potter is a craftsman working with someone else's tool kit, criticism will be justified once he has his own set of tools.

father_and_son · Feb 22, 2020

From sufc.co.uk themselves...

There brief concern when VAR reviewed a possible red card following a 50/50 challenge between Lundstram and Dunk, but no action was taken.

Zero-proof reading throughout the entire article but clearly not red because it was 50/50. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

Baldseagull · Feb 22, 2020

It's clear that most think he should have been sent off, and even I who didn't think he should have been sent off would not have thought it outrageous if he had been. The handball is bugging me though. If the ball has struck an attacking players hand in the build up to a goal, however unintentional or unavoidable, it is always ruled no goal on account of the handball, which makes me wonder if Sheffield had gone up the other end and scored directly after that handball, if VAR then would have given us a penalty?

Bodian · Feb 22, 2020

Now then - this was my first game of the season, so only my second experience of VAR live (after the semi-final last year) and I had no idea all this discussion was going on. The handball shout was right in front of us, and everyone around me (whilst still calling for it) basically said 'no chance'. And as for the "VAR checking for serious foul play" up on the screen, we assumed it was for Dunk sliding in after losing control of the ball. From our end of the pitch, I had no idea of the actions of their chap. Having seen it on screen now - ouch!

Weststander · Feb 22, 2020

Keown and Wright on MOTD concluded it was a red, Lundstram a lucky boy.

Hugo Rune · Feb 22, 2020

Keown:

‘Worse than Lo Celso’s’

I’d like to see the keyboard warriors on here go face to face with Keown and tell him he’s wrong!

100% red all day long.

Blackadder · Feb 22, 2020

Weststander said:
Keown and Wright on MOTD concluded it was a red, Lundstram a lucky boy.

Wright said they were both very lucky.

Super Steve Earle · Feb 22, 2020

Blackadder said:
Wright said they were both very lucky.

He meant Lundstram was lucky not to be sent off and Dunk was lucky not to be more seriously hurt.

Blackadder · Feb 22, 2020

Super Steve Earle said:
He meant Lundstram was lucky not to be sent off and Dunk was lucky not to be more seriously hurt.

Must admit, I did consider that (just did a quick rewind).

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