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[Travel] Hs2 v This.



Leekbrookgull

Leekbrookgull

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2005
16,253
Leek
I am one of many here north of the Home Counties who are not impressed by Hs2,just electrify the whole network. We can't get anything like this 90mph within four mins. Stoke to Derby is an hour for thirty miles no wonder people use the A50 and drive in half the time and you can forget bus travel Leek to Hanley at £7-50 A/Rtn for a 24 mile round trip ! Rant over. :wave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KCNlPvxomM&t=303s
 




thedonkeycentrehalf

thedonkeycentrehalf

Retired
Jul 7, 2003
8,630
HS2 is a vanity project that benefits very few. If they invested that money in resolving the issues around Manchester (and replacing the Northern Rail franchise) train travel in the North would be so much better.
 


Dick Swiveller

Dick Swiveller

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2011
9,159
You are like a human Taboola. You'll never guess what Oswald Mosley looks like now.
 




Worried Man Blues

Worried Man Blues

Well-known member
Feb 28, 2009
6,628
Swansea
Leekbrookgull said:
I am one of many here north of the Home Counties who are not impressed by Hs2,just electrify the whole network. We can't get anything like this 90mph within four mins. Stoke to Derby is an hour for thirty miles no wonder people use the A50 and drive in half the time and you can forget bus travel Leek to Hanley at £7-50 A/Rtn for a 24 mile round trip ! Rant over. :wave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KCNlPvxomM&t=303s
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Thanks for that, did the HH to Brighton for school and then the HH to London Bridge so really enjoyed that bit. Diesel in this bit of Wales not sure if HS2 will ever happen.
 




GOM

GOM

living vicariously
Aug 8, 2005
3,225
Leeds - but not the dirty bit
Leekbrookgull said:
I am one of many here north of the Home Counties who are not impressed by Hs2,just electrify the whole network. We can't get anything like this 90mph within four mins. Stoke to Derby is an hour for thirty miles no wonder people use the A50 and drive in half the time and you can forget bus travel Leek to Hanley at £7-50 A/Rtn for a 24 mile round trip ! Rant over. :wave:
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Again, HS2 is not about speed. The east and west coast lines are at full capacity and new lines are needed to increase that.
 








GT49er

GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,752
Gloucester
Leekbrookgull said:
I am one of many here north of the Home Counties who are not impressed by Hs2,just electrify the whole network. We can't get anything like this 90mph within four mins. Stoke to Derby is an hour for thirty miles no wonder people use the A50 and drive in half the time and you can forget bus travel Leek to Hanley at £7-50 A/Rtn for a 24 mile round trip ! Rant over.
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Electrification doesn't mean faster. Cheaper to run (once installed) and cleaner, certainly, but not necessarily faster.

We have dual-power trains on the London route - electric when there are wires and diesel electric when not, and diesel electric units on the North East to South West cross country services - all can and do go up to 100mph.
 


Madafwo

Madafwo

I'm probably being facetious.
Nov 11, 2013
1,591
Even Steam locos could hit 125mph, its not about the power source, it's about the infrastructure. Even the HST designed in the 70's had excellent acceleration.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,221
HS link between Manchester and Leeds would be WAY more beneficial to 'The Northern Powerhouse' and all its inhabitants. Current arrangements are beyond pathetic. Victorians would have just dug tunnels and built viaducts and made if happen double quick. Might have come up withsomething other than a two carriage converted bus chassis also.

Anytime I've used HS1 in recent years, off-peak, it's ZOOMED to Stratford and Ebbsfleet, then trundled pathetically slowly down to Faversham via a dozen Duck Halts.
 




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