[Albion] Do we miss Hughton?

peterward said:

Youre not wrong, who are we to complain with such an incredible owner as TB, good analogy about Sheff United as well...... Theyre probably the best current example of an average size club without mega money owners.

Mentioned before, in Wilder they seem to have the perfect hybrid of the best of Potter and the best of Hughton. Can press, pass and attack real quick, then fall quickly into strict banks of 4 to defend without the ball. Hughtons defence with Potters attack.

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HBoi said:

if we loose to West Ham

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peterward said:

Again, in all due respect youre misinterpreting only half of what I wrote, the whole of which, in context, to me seemed crystal (and not taken literally) wheras i guess as you quote just second half, youre taking first half not literally as its meant?and the other half (is taken literally).
Of course its down to Bloom only, i dont and havent said it isnt, and I dont disagree that we'll never know if Hughton may have been a success if Bloom had acted differently.

"Time will tell if Potter is the answer, Time has already answered that Hughton isnt"

For the final time! as this is all getting too ridiculous........

We cant see into the future today (thus nobody knows how Potters tenure ends), is he the answer? ........ in the future after time has passed, and after one day he leaves, we'll be able to look back and see what we cant today. was he the answer?

Whilst nobody highlighted or questioned, the first part "Time will tell if Potter is the answer" I guess it was obvious and not taken literally that Potter (in future) will not leave because of a Seiko watch, or because the time is 3:47pm or for anything to do with Big Ben, Greenwich or lines of longtitude, he will leave because he chooses to or because hes sacked by Bloom. If its the former, the club/Bloom may or may not deem that hes still the head coach/manager answer for our club, if he's sacked (once that is past tense, sometime in the future) the club/bloom have deemed he's not the answer (and enough time has now passed to show this from where we stand today - unable to predict the future).

1 year, 18 months ago, you could just as easily have written "Time will tell if Hughton is the answer" (for our club and primarily for what our owner wants and lists as his priorities).
From what was then the present tense, to that future point (where he was sacked) and now looking back with retrospect in past tense, time (now passed) has shown hes not the answer.

The answer to whom? of course Bloom, the man who owns the clubs shares, put in all the money and the hirer/firer of managers/head coaches.

Do you think I implied in the second part only, that Hughton isnt here because its a Friday or a certain time of the day or because of his watch sense? I honestly thought it obvious both statements, taken in context are not literal

Maybe i'll go to the brexit thread, as I totally concur with you on that

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HBoi said:

In light of our recent performances, I often find myself wondering where we'd be now with Hughton at the helm instead - Would we be thriving top ten? or continuing our abysmal form that we ended last season in? Would AJ have scored yet? Personally, I was absolutely gutted that Hughton got sacked. We reached the semi-final of the FA cup (which was a brilliant day out!), survived relegation (albeit only just) - surely those tick all the boxes for a club like us?

I understand that Potter definitely needs time to adapt and shape his team but honestly, bar a few performances, we've struggled to pick up points this season and have had just too many poor results. The reality is that now points are needed far more than style right now. Right now we're on an abysmal run of form - picking up one point in January, when we really should of got around 6 - and yet all I hear is still 'give Potter time' or 'we're playing well though'. I understand that we have a lot of potential as a squad and do like what Potter has done here but if we loose to West Ham i'm sure a lot of fans, including me, are going to turn against him.

If we beat West Ham then sure i'll be fine and this run of form will hopefully be forgotten but once again - Where would we be now with Hughton ... ?

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sparkie said:

He didn't. He said he signed because of Potter, he didn't actually say anything about Hughton. Now you can interpret it as an implication, but it is somewhat putting words in his mouth.

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dazzer6666 said:

You are [MENTION=33329]Jolly Red Giant[/MENTION] AND Chris Hughton and I claim my £5 (x2)

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symyjym said:

I thought we had a balance of Hughton's defensive attributes with a more positive Potter style just right at the start of the season but we seem to have plateaued rather than improved.

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symyjym said:

In reality I do feel like we mostly have average Championship players trying to punch above their weight, and we would be struggling in the Prem under any system. Last season our problem was decision making in the final third and we have the same problem this season.

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SIMMO SAYS said:

palarse

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NooBHA said:

You could look at that another way.

Last season the opposition scored 36 goals with 75% possession per game. This season they have scored 34 goals averaging 25% possession in a game.

That suggests to me that every time they get hold of the ball they score

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peterward said:

no arguing here, told you the first time you'd got the context wrong! and explained why..... continually firing back with more of your own ideas and trying to attribute them out of context to me, is not an argument with me, its one with yourself.......

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Jolly Red Giant said:

Teams have figured out how to play against Potter's style of football and Potter has yet to show if he can adapt to compensate. Hopefully he will figure it out sooner rather than later.


It takes years to build a PL squad - the gap between PL and Championship is massive. And even then it costs £100s of millions to do it with no guarantee of success. Wolves have been mentioned - in 2019 Wolves spent almost £90million - in 2018 they spent over £100million - and while they were still in the Championship they spent over £50million in two years. They have been very lucky in the players that they bought - most have been hits rather than misses.

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