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      Whens his contract up?
      End of June 2023 according to the internet.
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      I suspect Adam is the highest paid technically because he was a free transfer so as to keep him within the wage structure he would probably have been given around £2m signing on fee plus £55k a week salary , effectively making him the highest paid player if you add the £2m ish to the length of his contract .

      Dunk on £55k plus win bonuses built into new contract .

      Everyone else in the first team squad between £35-50k

      Thatís just my guesstimate .
      Certainly agree with the view that we'd have offered Lallana a large signing on bonus to offset a drop in wages to bring him into line with our wage structure, the fact we were offering him a three year deal as well would have helped our offer look better too.

      There is no way we'd have created a massive disparity between Adam and the rest of the squad, especially if we have Dunk on a deal where he's always the top paid (or within a certain percentage of the top wage earner). Lallana is good but he isn't that good that he's worth destroying a wage structure for, especially when there are question marks over his injury record.

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      JRG put himself in a corner with talking about wages initially looking more like "facts" rather than the guesswork it is. Lot of horsey as well. BW is obviously not earning £6k a week for example. Not a chance in hell he would have accepted that deal after being chased by Leeds for £25m or whatever it was.
      Let's be clear - this is not the first time that there has been a discussion about the contracts the players have on this forum - it has come up on several occasions and I have been utterly consistent in pointing out that we do not know the terms of the contracts that players have, that any claims about the terms of such contracts are speculation and educated guesswork. I base all my comments on the terms of such contracts on researching sources and trying to find those sources that seem to be the most credible - but at the end of the day nobody knows except those that are actually involved in such contracts.

      This is a discussion forum - most of the discussion is based on opinion, speculation and guesswork - I try and back up my assertions with evidence - most people on the forum do not.

      This thread is about Duffy and the discussion has revolved around the prospect of him being sold for a fee - the wages of Dunk and White and anyone else are really a side issue. Duffy is being paid a substantial wage - he has two years left on his contract and because of that he will be very hard to move out of the club unless the club eats at least a proportion of his remaining contract. Duffy has no incentive to move, thereby taking a significant pay-cut - and I don't blame him. He is almost 30 years old and seems to be in decline - the guy is due to make about £5million before the end of his contract - would anyone on here voluntarily give up half (or more) of that so that the club could make or save some money?
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      Let's be clear - this is not the first time that there has been a discussion about the contracts the players have on this forum - it has come up on several occasions and I have been utterly consistent in pointing out that we do not know the terms of the contracts that players have, that any claims about the terms of such contracts are speculation and educated guesswork. I base all my comments on the terms of such contracts on researching sources and trying to find those sources that seem to be the most credible - but at the end of the day nobody knows except those that are actually involved in such contracts.

      This is a discussion forum - most of the discussion is based on opinion, speculation and guesswork - I try and back up my assertions with evidence - most people on the forum do not.

      This thread is about Duffy and the discussion has revolved around the prospect of him being sold for a fee - the wages of Dunk and White and anyone else are really a side issue. Duffy is being paid a substantial wage - he has two years left on his contract and because of that he will be very hard to move out of the club unless the club eats at least a proportion of his remaining contract. Duffy has no incentive to move, thereby taking a significant pay-cut - and I don't blame him. He is almost 30 years old and seems to be in decline - the guy is due to make about £5million before the end of his contract - would anyone on here voluntarily give up half (or more) of that so that the club could make or save some money?
      It may be the case that the reasons he appears to be in decline are based on the fact that he didn't fit in with Potterball (not his fault) and on a season spent with a club that have experienced an untypically poor season (by their standards). Others on here have suggested, and I tend to agree, that there are certain managers (e.g. Dyche, Warnock, Allardyce) who play in a way much better suited to Duffy's game. I think Duffy's level was always circa upper championship/lower PL and to that extent I don't think he's declined - that is still his level.
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      It may be the case that the reasons he appears to be in decline are based on the fact that he didn't fit in with Potterball (not his fault) and on a season spent with a club that have experienced an untypically poor season (by their standards). Others on here have suggested, and I tend to agree, that there are certain managers (e.g. Dyche, Warnock, Allardyce) who play in a way much better suited to Duffy's game. I think Duffy's level was always circa upper championship/lower PL and to that extent I don't think he's declined - that is still his level.
      I would judge his decline against the players he is competing with in the Irish team. He was top dog at CB for several years and is now behind Clark (Newcastle), O'Shea (WBA) and Egan (Sheff Utd) - and falling behind Collins (Stoke - although likely to be Burnley next season) and Omobamidele (Norwich - and Duffy would only be ahead of him because he is an 18 year old kid). It looks like Hughton isn't even interested in bringing him into Forest if they lose Worrall.
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      I suspect Adam is the highest paid technically because he was a free transfer so as to keep him within the wage structure he would probably have been given around £2m signing on fee plus £55k a week salary , effectively making him the highest paid player if you add the £2m ish to the length of his contract .

      Dunk on £55k plus win bonuses built into new contract .

      Everyone else in the first team squad between £35-50k

      Thatís just my guesstimate .
      Lallana and Dunk are on 90k a week - has been mentioned several times on here, Lewis was previously on 70k until last summer as had been reported several times and he has a match highest earner clause. Welbeck is on around 70k
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      Lallana and Dunk are on 90k a week - has been mentioned several times on here, Lewis was previously on 70k until last summer as had been reported several times and he has a match highest earner clause. Welbeck is on around 70k
      Just because people say it on here doesnít make it true.
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      I would judge his decline against the players he is competing with in the Irish team. He was top dog at CB for several years and is now behind Clark (Newcastle), O'Shea (WBA) and Egan (Sheff Utd) - and falling behind Collins (Stoke - although likely to be Burnley next season) and Omobamidele (Norwich - and Duffy would only be ahead of him because he is an 18 year old kid). It looks like Hughton isn't even interested in bringing him into Forest if they lose Worrall.
      Amazing what one season in a poisonous atmosphere like at Celtic last season will do for you While our other recent departures north of the border have done very well, Duffy will bounce back, probably not with us, but he is still a very good defender, i have no doubt about that.
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