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    They are but think it would be worse without them. Without agents players would earn less and there would be much higher likelihood of owners making profit on football clubs, meaning we'd probably live in a world where Brighton were owned by McDonalds or something. Not sure it would have been preferable.
    Players were treated like dirt for more than 100 years - right up until the Bosman ruling. Agents are there to protect the financial interests of the players. The one change that I would make is to limit the commission agents can be paid - in the NFL it is 2.5% of the players contract.

    The biggest issue is the continuing growing cap between what lower league pro-footballers are paid compared to the PL - the gap was around 1:20 before the PL started - now it is up to 1:1000

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      He was born in Northern Ireland.
      In addition to the previous discussion of qualification rules, players born in Northern Ireland can play for either team without any parental qualification requirements, as they are innately allowed citizenship of both since the 1998 Belfast Agreement. This has been agreed by FIFA, although the IFA (Northern Irish FA) are not particularly fans of this decision.
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      Oh yea - as if I am shy about posting on here.

      Nobody knows the actually contracts there players have - unlike others sports, most football contracts are not public knowledge (this is because there is no salary cap and teams do not have to disclose salary details to anyone). As a result - this is all speculation.

      Taking Dunk - there are dozens of websites that purport to outline Dunk's salary and it varies between £38K a week up to £60K a week - the most common figure is £45K with a number of others at £49.5K. But again - this is all speculation as the only ones who know the true figure are the club owners and Dunk himself. The same applies to the rest of the squad.

      Now - this all traces back to whether Duffy can be sold and if he will move to a championship club. I asserted that Duffy was one of the highest paid players at the club (which he is) and that no championship club (or PL club) will pay a transfer fee and take on that salary. Duffy has another 2 years to go on his contract and Brighton have to pay him. He can sit on the bench and draw £45K a week for two years and then go off as a free agent and sign another contract with another club that won't have to pay a fee for him. The most likely outcome is that he will go on loan again next season with Brighton carrying the can for a significant portion of his salary - other than that they will have to buy out at least part of the contract to move him on.

      There have been numerous examples of this happening in the past - the one that springs to mind was Kevin Doyle when he was at Wolves. Doyle signed a four-year contract with Wolves in 2011 (apparently worth £40K a week) when they were in the PL. Wolves were then relegated twice to L1. Doyle refused to take a pay cut and was banished to train with a group of other players that Wolves were trying to unload. Wolves tried to sell him - willing to accept £2million - nobody would bite because of the size of Doyle's contract (primarily because he was having injury issues). Doyle eventually went on loan to QPR and then to Palace (he was injured while playing for both) so Wolves could recoup at least some of his wages, before making a handful of appearances for Wolves before they bought out the remainder of his contract and allowed him to join Colorado Rapids. Doyle was paid $1million a year plus bonuses while in Denver.
      You’ve pontificated about what players are on, preached the bleeding obvious and then stated no-one knows and it’s all speculation. Not sure why you bother tbh.
      Why did you let it bounce ?.....................You stupid ***t'
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      You’ve pontificated about what players are on, preached the bleeding obvious and then stated no-one knows and it’s all speculation. Not sure why you bother tbh.
      Amen to that.
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      Which is why you are my favourite poster on NSC. Accurate and up to date Albion facts, unadorned, and succinctly put. Use that as your next strapline
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      I love AZ's posts. So many ITK dicks on here, but he just posts FACT.
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      You’ve pontificated about what players are on, preached the bleeding obvious and then stated no-one knows and it’s all speculation. Not sure why you bother tbh.
      I wasn't the only one - and I note you chose to ignore the substantive part of the argument
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      There is no way our club captain, who also signed a new deal when it was obvious was not in GPs plans is still earning the same - or less than Duffy
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      Duffy signed a five year contract in 2018 for £45K a week.

      Lallana is the highest paid player at Brighton - because he was a free transfer - he's on about £90K a week. After that the next players are on £50K a week - Jahanbakhsh, Webster and Gross. Duffy is in the next tier with Wellbeck, Dunk, Propper and Maupay. White has a very small contract - something like £300K a year until 2023.
      Dunk is on the same wages as Lallana, whatever that is.
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      In addition to the previous discussion of qualification rules, players born in Northern Ireland can play for either team without any parental qualification requirements, as they are innately allowed citizenship of both since the 1998 Belfast Agreement. This has been agreed by FIFA, although the IFA (Northern Irish FA) are not particularly fans of this decision.
      And was always the case - indeed many Irish players played for both international sides over several decades - the great Johnny Carey played 9 times for the North and 27 times for the Republic. From the great Irish team of the late 1940s - Billy Walsh, Davy Walsh, Tommy Aherne, Tommy Eglington, Con Martin and Peter Farrell (all born in the South) and all played for both the North and the Republic (actually for Ireland as the Republic of Ireland didn't exist until 1949).
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      Dunk is on the same wages as Lallana, whatever that is.
      Doubt that - all reports are that Lallana is on over £90K a week - and is on significantly higher wages than any other player in the squad.
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      Oh yea - as if I am shy about posting on here.

      Nobody knows the actually contracts there players have - unlike others sports, most football contracts are not public knowledge (this is because there is no salary cap and teams do not have to disclose salary details to anyone). As a result - this is all speculation.

      Taking Dunk - there are dozens of websites that purport to outline Dunk's salary and it varies between £38K a week up to £60K a week - the most common figure is £45K with a number of others at £49.5K. But again - this is all speculation as the only ones who know the true figure are the club owners and Dunk himself. The same applies to the rest of the squad.

      Now - this all traces back to whether Duffy can be sold and if he will move to a championship club. I asserted that Duffy was one of the highest paid players at the club (which he is) and that no championship club (or PL club) will pay a transfer fee and take on that salary. Duffy has another 2 years to go on his contract and Brighton have to pay him. He can sit on the bench and draw £45K a week for two years and then go off as a free agent and sign another contract with another club that won't have to pay a fee for him. The most likely outcome is that he will go on loan again next season with Brighton carrying the can for a significant portion of his salary - other than that they will have to buy out at least part of the contract to move him on.

      There have been numerous examples of this happening in the past - the one that springs to mind was Kevin Doyle when he was at Wolves. Doyle signed a four-year contract with Wolves in 2011 (apparently worth £40K a week) when they were in the PL. Wolves were then relegated twice to L1. Doyle refused to take a pay cut and was banished to train with a group of other players that Wolves were trying to unload. Wolves tried to sell him - willing to accept £2million - nobody would bite because of the size of Doyle's contract (primarily because he was having injury issues). Doyle eventually went on loan to QPR and then to Palace (he was injured while playing for both) so Wolves could recoup at least some of his wages, before making a handful of appearances for Wolves before they bought out the remainder of his contract and allowed him to join Colorado Rapids. Doyle was paid $1million a year plus bonuses while in Denver.
      Im no specialist but I would argue that Dunk's agent is doing a remarkably terrible job in getting his client a new contract almost every year with very little increase in pay. That would be utter madness for a player that was being touted to top 4 clubs as recently as last year (Chelsea). He will most likely be the top earner or equal to the top earner. Most definitely not in the lower tiers that you suggest.
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