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    Didn’t White sign a new contract last year when he agent was being a bit of a div and stirring up news stories about him? Seem to remember at the time there was talk he’d doubled his wages but that was just gossip.

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    His agent will have stirred things up (almost certainly with Ben's agreement) which ended up with Ben increasing his wages by at least 100% but I'd guess closer to 400%. If he has a good Euros, expect his agent to do the same again.

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      His agent will have stirred things up (almost certainly with Ben's agreement) which ended up with Ben increasing his wages by at least 100% but I'd guess closer to 400%. If he has a good Euros, expect his agent to do the same again.
      I’d be shocked if he doesn’t get a new contract this summer, hopefully with us!
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      Lewis Dunk singed a new contract in August 2020 a full year after Adam Webster joined us.

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      The Jolly Red Giant turned awfully quiet after this.
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      If the ‘UK’ had a vote for a United Ireland, it’d be an astonishing landslide victory for the Irish republicans. Fingers crossed that some politician wakes up to the idea of getting this region off the UK books. They are not wanted and certainly not needed now, nothing but trouble.
      British Imperialism has been trying to get out of the North of Ireland for 50 years - the problem is that they have created a sectarian nightmare that would flare up into a sectarian civil war if Britain announced that it was leaving the North in the morning - and worse for the imperialist elites, the conflict would spread to British cities.

      These days Johnson is digging in on the North in order to undermine the demand for independence in Scotland - after Brexit he cannot afford the break-up of the UK.

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      Poorly worded on my behalf TBF
      Just wish they could get over it and play nicely
      Would a united Ireland potentially solve this or would there be too much friction?

      Look further back through history and sadly religion has been the cause of many conflicts
      Unfortunately it has nothing to do with playing nice - the imperialist elites created sectarianism for political purposes and then spent nearly three centuries whipping up sectarianism whenever it felt that British rule and/or the rule of capital was threatened. It is now deeply engrained in society in the North - e.g. more than 70% of teenagers have never even spoken to someone from the 'other' religion. Moreover, any attempt to impose a united Ireland will create widespread sectarian conflict. The Good Friday Agreement, while bringing an end to the sectarian conflict of the previous 25 years, actually institutionalised sectarian division through all sectors of society in the North.

      At the moment republicans are promoting a 'border poll' - a referendum on unity (the mechanism is in the GFA). This is extremely dangerous. In 1973 the British government held a border poll to reassure Protestants that they would remain under London. The result was a foregone conclusion - so Catholics boycotted the poll and the result showed something like 98% in favour of remaining in the UK. The problem was that the period running up to the vote and immediately afterwards was the most vicious and bloody of the entire Troubles. Republicans think that if they get 50% +1 in favour of a united Ireland in a border poll that Britain will say bye-bye and the Protestant community will simply put their hands up and say 'well, we had a good run - time to accept our fate'. The reality is that it is likely to be more like 1973 except this time the Protectant community would boycott the border poll and sectarian conflict would be inevitable. The last 100 years have shown that the Catholic working class in the North could not be coerced into accepting the Northern state - similarly the Protestant working class will not be coerced into a united Ireland against their will (nor should they be). Any unitary state in Ireland founded on the basis of a border poll would be a highly repressive state with the intent of coercing 1 million Protestants into a state they do not want to be part of.
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      I’d be shocked if he doesn’t get a new contract this summer, hopefully with us!
      I'll be dissapointed if TB hasn't cast his agent into the footings of the North stand extension.

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      I'll be dissapointed if TB hasn't cast his agent into the footings of the North stand extension.

      Agents should be banned, a cancer on the game.
      They are but think it would be worse without them. Without agents players would earn less and there would be much higher likelihood of owners making profit on football clubs, meaning we'd probably live in a world where Brighton were owned by McDonalds or something. Not sure it would have been preferable.
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      British Imperialism has been trying to get out of the North of Ireland for 50 years - the problem is that they have created a sectarian nightmare that would flare up into a sectarian civil war if Britain announced that it was leaving the North in the morning - and worse for the imperialist elites, the conflict would spread to British cities.

      These days Johnson is digging in on the North in order to undermine the demand for independence in Scotland - after Brexit he cannot afford the break-up of the UK.


      Unfortunately it has nothing to do with playing nice - the imperialist elites created sectarianism for political purposes and then spent nearly three centuries whipping up sectarianism whenever it felt that British rule and/or the rule of capital was threatened. It is now deeply engrained in society in the North - e.g. more than 70% of teenagers have never even spoken to someone from the 'other' religion. Moreover, any attempt to impose a united Ireland will create widespread sectarian conflict. The Good Friday Agreement, while bringing an end to the sectarian conflict of the previous 25 years, actually institutionalised sectarian division through all sectors of society in the North.

      At the moment republicans are promoting a 'border poll' - a referendum on unity (the mechanism is in the GFA). This is extremely dangerous. In 1973 the British government held a border poll to reassure Protestants that they would remain under London. The result was a foregone conclusion - so Catholics boycotted the poll and the result showed something like 98% in favour of remaining in the UK. The problem was that the period running up to the vote and immediately afterwards was the most vicious and bloody of the entire Troubles. Republicans think that if they get 50% +1 in favour of a united Ireland in a border poll that Britain will say bye-bye and the Protestant community will simply put their hands up and say 'well, we had a good run - time to accept our fate'. The reality is that it is likely to be more like 1973 except this time the Protestant community would boycott the border poll and sectarian conflict would be inevitable. The last 100 years have shown that the Catholic working class in the North could not be coerced into accepting the Northern state - similarly the Protestant working class will not be coerced into a united Ireland against their will (nor should they be). Any unitary state in Ireland founded on the basis of a border poll would be a highly repressive state with the intent of coercing 1 million Protestants into a state they do not want to be part of.
      Very well explained. For me, it's up to British to sort this mess out seeing that it's all our fault. Let's unite Ireland again. My solution would be to throw billions at it. To build a new city in Scotland and send whoever (from the 750,000ish protestant community) can't abide the new regime back to live there seeing that is where most of them came from. Everyone would receive the same offer. A 4 bedroom detached house with EV car, guaranteed job in their trade and a Union Jack flag for their garden. Simples. Obviously it'd be nice if Scotland then went independent.
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      Probably still constructing his next reply.
      Oh yea - as if I am shy about posting on here.

      Nobody knows the actually contracts there players have - unlike others sports, most football contracts are not public knowledge (this is because there is no salary cap and teams do not have to disclose salary details to anyone). As a result - this is all speculation.

      Taking Dunk - there are dozens of websites that purport to outline Dunk's salary and it varies between £38K a week up to £60K a week - the most common figure is £45K with a number of others at £49.5K. But again - this is all speculation as the only ones who know the true figure are the club owners and Dunk himself. The same applies to the rest of the squad.

      Now - this all traces back to whether Duffy can be sold and if he will move to a championship club. I asserted that Duffy was one of the highest paid players at the club (which he is) and that no championship club (or PL club) will pay a transfer fee and take on that salary. Duffy has another 2 years to go on his contract and Brighton have to pay him. He can sit on the bench and draw £45K a week for two years and then go off as a free agent and sign another contract with another club that won't have to pay a fee for him. The most likely outcome is that he will go on loan again next season with Brighton carrying the can for a significant portion of his salary - other than that they will have to buy out at least part of the contract to move him on.

      There have been numerous examples of this happening in the past - the one that springs to mind was Kevin Doyle when he was at Wolves. Doyle signed a four-year contract with Wolves in 2011 (apparently worth £40K a week) when they were in the PL. Wolves were then relegated twice to L1. Doyle refused to take a pay cut and was banished to train with a group of other players that Wolves were trying to unload. Wolves tried to sell him - willing to accept £2million - nobody would bite because of the size of Doyle's contract (primarily because he was having injury issues). Doyle eventually went on loan to QPR and then to Palace (he was injured while playing for both) so Wolves could recoup at least some of his wages, before making a handful of appearances for Wolves before they bought out the remainder of his contract and allowed him to join Colorado Rapids. Doyle was paid $1million a year plus bonuses while in Denver.
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      Very well explained. For me, it's up to British to sort this mess out seeing that it's all our fault. Let's unite Ireland again. My solution would be to throw billions at it. To build a new city in Scotland and send whoever (from the 750,000ish protestant community) can't abide the new regime back to live there seeing that is where most of them came from. Everyone would receive the same offer. A 4 bedroom detached house with EV car, guaranteed job in their trade and a Union Jack flag for their garden. Simples. Obviously it'd be nice if Scotland then went independent.
      The thing of note is that when Ulster Protestants migrate to England, English people regard them as Irish and they often end up drinking with Northern Catholics in Irish pubs.

      And if only the solution was a simple as building some 4 bed Ds and semi-Ds

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