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    Does anyone think corona could have been spread through the government/officials so easily as they aren't sticking to the 2m social distancing rules themselves? This is from the press conference yesterday.
    not really no....but if you look at event 201 and listen to Gatses speeches he does drop a number of fops , one of the major ones being " we can control the population through vaccination programs" ...i'm buggered if i know whats going on but it isn't what it says on the box.
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      Spain still smashing the numbers. Is that what peak looks like ? In which case , I guess we are at peak now and it lasts weeks
      I’m confused - worldometers saying that Spain reported 510 new deaths today - perhaps the others on top were from previous days and is the weekend catch up of reporting?
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      https://twitter.com/chrisgiles_/stat...300456960?s=21

      This is an interesting Twitter thread re: reporting of death numbers
      These statistics are some of the most worrying I have seen lately.

      If this is correct (and it seems to be based on the same ONS data that is used by the Government for the daily totals), then the current rate of increase in deaths seems to be significantly understated. This is obviously down to the delay in reporting deaths, and there could be many perfectly valid reasons for this, but if this understatement is correct, it is not good at all.

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      I'd appreciate if anyone can point out something I've misinterpreted, or whether these figures are incorrect.
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      I’m confused - worldometers saying that Spain reported 510 new deaths today - perhaps the others on top were from previous days and is the weekend catch up of reporting?
      757 according to El Pais today.
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      757 according to El Pais today.
      I know - I’m suggesting that it may be 247 of those are from previous days, as part of weekend catch up, as we do in the UK?

      I believe someone from PHE was saying UK weekend figures get added “by the middle of the following week”.
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      I know - I’m suggesting that it may be 247 of those are from previous days, as part of weekend catch up, as we do in the UK?

      I believe someone from PHE was saying UK weekend figures get added “by the middle of the following week”.
      Ah, I see. A government spokesperson said today that there was a discrepancy in figures from the ministry of health and the judiciary "due to the strict definition of death by coronavirus" set by the government.

      Could be related to that.
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      Oh Geez. Conspiracy theorists & extreme religious wingnuts can be relied upon to display their naivety and/or idiocy. Lopestri is a Tory MP. So responsible.
      He’s a divorced catholic so I wouldn’t put him down as being particularly religious. He’s playing games but I’m not sure what or why.

      And here in Rustington we are doing just fine with the new vicar streaming services and the like from her front room. I’m hoping we can start gently lifting the lockdown by the very end of this month, but by Friday? No...
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      The Spanish gov are forecasting that end of this lockdown period, 26th April, normal life will gradually start to return.
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      Reuters report.

      An interesting read.

      https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN21P1X8


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      These statistics are some of the most worrying I have seen lately.

      If this is correct (and it seems to be based on the same ONS data that is used by the Government for the daily totals), then the current rate of increase in deaths seems to be significantly understated.
      To be clear, ONS data has a two week lag and is based on death certificates of Covid-19+ corpses, wherever those people died.

      The government’s daily figures are from the NHS/PHE and do not include ‘died at home’ but are also vulnerable to reporting lag which can be on the order of 3 or 4 days.

      In essence, the ONS data is the accurate set but you’ve got to wait that two weeks for it.

      And yes, very very worrying indeed and exactly what I was afraid of as a Libertarian PM delayed and dithered with the lockdown because the message was going to be so unpopular.

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