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The Wizard · Mar 23, 2020

Why do I keep reading that the instructions to the public have been ‘vague’ or ‘confusing’.

You can go out and exercise when you want, do it in an open area and make sure to stay at least 2M away from anyone not from your household. Honestly, how is that vague or confusing? That in no way leads to the pictures we’ve seen of packed markets and playgrounds. Not at any stretch.

Napper · Mar 23, 2020

deaths up 54 to 303

bhafc99 · Mar 23, 2020

UK death toll up 54 today, so - like yesterday - not as bad as feared, and a growing possibility we might be ducking under the Italy/Spain trajectory.

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bhafc99 · Mar 23, 2020

Napper said:
deaths up 46 to 303

That’s England only, UK total - which is the usual figure - is 54.

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Mellotron · Mar 23, 2020

bhafc99 said:
UK death toll up 54 today, so - like yesterday - not as bad as feared, and a growing possibility we might be ducking under the Italy/Spain trajectory.

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Here’s hoping. Certainly a slower trajectory in last couple of days, and we won’t have seen any flattening from social distancing in these numbers yet.

Notters · Mar 23, 2020

bhafc99 said:
UK death toll up 54 today, so - like yesterday - not as bad as feared, and a growing possibility we might be ducking under the Italy/Spain trajectory.

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Let's hope so eh?

Mellotron said:
Here’s hoping. Certainly a slower trajectory in last couple of days, and we won’t have seen any flattening from social distancing in these numbers yet.

Which makes you wonder what it is caused by. Better treatment? Use of off-label drugs?

atomised · Mar 23, 2020

Interesting that it's been a bit lower than expected for a couple of days. Saturday we were exactly on Italy's figures at the same point so have to take a tiny bit of encouragement there

Beach Hut · Mar 23, 2020

No press conference today due to Cobra meeting but potential broadcast later today

The Wizard · Mar 23, 2020

2 days ago we were equal with Italy at a similar stage of the outbreak, 2 weeks behind them.

7th: Italy 233 deaths 21st: UK 233
8th: Italy 366 deaths 22nd: UK 281
9th: Italy 463 deaths 23rd: UK 335

It’s still not a a nice number, but at least it isn’t absolutely exploding yet.

Mellotron · Mar 23, 2020

Notters said:
Let's hope so eh?

Which makes you wonder what it is caused by. Better treatment? Use of off-label drugs?

So many potential factors. It may end up that Italy was unusually high compared to other European countries, due to a high average age, and the fact that - as the first in Europe to really see such a rise - they had less time to react/prepare. We have been lucky to see them ahead of us and react accordingly. Possibly.

atomised · Mar 23, 2020

The Wizard said:
2 days ago we were equal with Italy at a similar stage of the outbreak, 2 weeks behind them.

7th: Italy 233 deaths 21st: UK 233
8th: Italy 366 deaths 22nd: UK 281
9th: Italy 463 deaths 23rd: UK 335

It’s still not a a nice number, but at least it isn’t absolutely exploding yet.

I was just trying to collate those numbers myself so.youve saved me the time. From that position on saturday I was seriously concerned at our trajectory

Mellotron · Mar 23, 2020

When do we get Italy's numbers? Really want to see their death toll drop again today...

AZ Gull · Mar 23, 2020

Arizona has started drive-thru testing at a number of sites today. One of my squash-playing buddies is a process engineer at Banner Health and had a hand in setting this up - Banner Health launches drive-thru COVID-19 testing at 4 Arizona sites

Notters · Mar 23, 2020

atomised said:
I was just trying to collate those numbers myself so.youve saved me the time. From that position on saturday I was seriously concerned at our trajectory

What we don't know is if the number of cases is still rising sharply, and it's just the deaths that are not - which is very frustrating. I guess people working in hospitals would be able to give us a feel for this?

The Wizard · Mar 23, 2020

Mellotron said:
When do we get Italy's numbers? Really want to see their death toll drop again today...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

Can follow all the ‘numbers’ here, no Italian figures from today yet.

atomised · Mar 23, 2020

We are never going to have proper data on number of cases which will confuse matters somewhat. Dont know the answer to that without stronger testing

Beach Hut · Mar 23, 2020

The emergenc legislation proposed had no clear detail of an enforced lock-down

The Wizard · Mar 23, 2020

Could be a flawed one but my personal theory is once antibodies testing is done, it will be discovered a lot more people have had this virus without even knowing than many think.

Beach Hut · Mar 23, 2020

The Wizard said:
Could be a flawed one but my personal theory is once antibodies testing is done, it will be discovered a lot more people have had this virus without even knowing than many think.

Think this is why they should ramp up this type of testing as this theory could be right

Wrong-Direction · Mar 23, 2020

Matt Handcock is basically our prime minister, Boris isn't intelligent enough or cares enough to know what to do in times of crisis.

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