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Seagull27

Seagull27

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Feb 7, 2011
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bWize said:
Live protests going off in Trafalgar square and Hyde park... Police have been brutal at times. Again no coverage from BBC etc






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Albion Dan said:
That can’t be right at all media outlets like the BBC aren’t biased at all and give fair representation to all newsworthy events.
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There's literally an article third down on the BBC site right now about it, did you even bother to check?

BBC News - Covid: Clashes as police shut down protest over new rules
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54309603

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Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
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Almost two-thirds of people believe the Government's latest Covid-19 restrictions do not go far enough, a poll reveals.

A survey of more than 2,000 adults found that 63 per cent believed that the measures taken last week fell short of the action that should have been taken.

Some 51 per cent of respondents favoured closing gyms and beauty salons now to lower the rate of coronavirus infections.



These people need to go away, they are determined to make people jobless and increase mental health issues - we really are at the point where we need to get on with things safely.
 


Driver8

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Kinky Gerbils said:
Almost two-thirds of people believe the Government's latest Covid-19 restrictions do not go far enough, a poll reveals.

A survey of more than 2,000 adults found that 63 per cent believed that the measures taken last week fell short of the action that should have been taken.

Some 51 per cent of respondents favoured closing gyms and beauty salons now to lower the rate of coronavirus infections.



These people need to go away, they are determined to make people jobless and increase mental health issues - we really are at the point where we need to get on with things safely.
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The British public have shown they can’t be trusted to get on with things safely, hence the new rules. If they try and get round them, or ignore them, the rules will get more draconian.
 


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Kinky Gerbil

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Driver8 said:
The British public have shown they can’t be trusted to get on with things safely, hence the new rules. If they try and get round them, or ignore them, the rules will get more draconian.
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I would argue the curfew rule is set up to fail and the messaging was too mixed.

They are not blameless, but the gov have not helped
 




Driver8

Driver8

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Kinky Gerbils said:
I would argue the curfew rule is set up to fail and the messaging was too mixed.

They are not blameless, but the gov have not helped
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I agree that shutting everything at 10.00 pm is daft as it causes crowds as everyone leaves at the same time. They should probably just shut pubs altogether.
 










Albion Dan

Albion Dan

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Jul 8, 2003
11,125
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Kinky Gerbils said:
I would argue the curfew rule is set up to fail and the messaging was too mixed.

They are not blameless, but the gov have not helped
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If you’re led by fools and follow everything decided by fools what does that make us?

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Albion Dan

Albion Dan

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Albion Dan said:
I know, why would those surgeons say that and then there is video footage of a cast from Boris, Dr Fauci, Matt Hancock, Vallance all saying they don't make much difference too. Its weird isn't it.
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Albion Dan said:
I know, why would those surgeons say that and then there is video footage of a cast from Boris, Dr Fauci, Matt Hancock, Vallance all saying they don't make much difference too. Its weird isn't it.
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I guess you believed that video from the 'NHS' worker circulating a couple months back, saying she's had no work to do for the last 6 months.
Or that it was genetically manufactured in a lab? Or that it only affects older people? Or better yet, it doesn't even exist, and it's all part of a NWO?

Yeah, that was bullshit aswell, pal.
 


beorhthelm

beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
35,332
Albion Dan said:
Surgeons explain that the masks almost all of you are wearing are utterly pointless. We are all getting mugged off.


https://www.facebook.com/100000817150884/posts/3007213965982479/?extid=wtBVpaadNm0KbjnK&d=w
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i got as far as the good nurse saying theres zero % protection. too bad she is uninformed, there's research that shows relative protection of masks, and its not zero. this overlooks the point of wearing masks is to prevent asymptomatic from spreading, not prevent us from catching.
 




Blue Valkyrie

Blue Valkyrie

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Sep 1, 2012
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beorhthelm said:
i got as far as the good nurse saying theres zero % protection. too bad she is uninformed, there's research that shows relative protection of masks, and its not zero. this overlooks the point of wearing masks is to prevent asymptomatic from spreading, not prevent us from catching.
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Indeed.

And if you catch CV through a mask the viral load is likely to be reduced - which gives you a much greater chance of a mild / asymptomatic case rather than a severe hostpitalising one.
 


Albion Dan

Albion Dan

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Jul 8, 2003
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Very interesting breakdown on the effect of the false positive test rate on the trend information Government are presenting. Would love to hear thoughts from those that believe the stats government are using are true. Is this guy wrong? Genuinely interested to hear the counter argument.

https://youtu.be/06yja21V7xg
 
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Albion Dan

Albion Dan

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Progress is being made!!! This is exactly what I’ve been arguing against yet loads of you are just happy to suck it up and allow this crap to be imposed on us. THANK GOD there are politicians that can see the risk and how wrong the approach is. Very worrying how many sheep here and in society would just lie over and ignorantly allow this all to just pass through. Yep there’s nothing untoward happening is there?


https://www.theguardian.com/politic...iHe6-Ov7S-C23IPIQ3_SStlN5E#Echobox=1601190380
 


RossyG

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Dec 20, 2014
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A glimmer of hope, thank goodness.

Let’s hope Boris is gone soon and that he takes Hancock and Cummings with him. (Assuming it’s not just “meet the new boss, same as the old boss”)
 




pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
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Albion Dan said:
Very interesting breakdown on the effect of the false positive test rate on the trend information Government are presenting. Would love to hear thoughts from those that believe the stats government are using are true. Is this guy wrong? Genuinely interested to hear the counter argument.

https://youtu.be/06yja21V7xg
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Here are the numbers of people with confirmed Covid-19 on mechanical ventilation over the past month, similar acceleration in the number of people in hospital too. Are these false positives?

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare

date covidOccupiedMVBeds
2020-09-25 262
2020-09-24 243
2020-09-23 228
2020-09-22 211
2020-09-21 181
2020-09-20 162
2020-09-19 141
2020-09-18 138
2020-09-17 127
2020-09-16 124
2020-09-15 115
2020-09-14 105
2020-09-13 91
2020-09-12 85
2020-09-11 77
2020-09-10 78
2020-09-09 80
2020-09-08 80
2020-09-07 77
2020-09-06 69
2020-09-05 65
2020-09-04 69
2020-09-03 76
2020-09-02 81
2020-09-01 82
2020-08-31 69
2020-08-30 66
2020-08-29 64
2020-08-28 60
2020-08-27 71
2020-08-26 64
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
70,377
The lack of joined-up common sense continues to be appalling. Shut the pubs at 10pm? How about shut the off-licences at 10pm also? Expect that they will in about a month's time, but why is it ALWAYS so difficult for hmgov to initiate the bleeding obvious measures in a timely fashion?
 


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