[Albion] Will Potter Stick or Twist?

NooBHA said:

1. He won't change because he possibly doesn't have the experience to do it another way.

2. He can't change because he was given the " gig " on the Mantra to play that way.

3. He won't be allowed to because he will be railroaded from those above him to continue that way and he really doesn't have the "standing" within the game or I personally feel, the strength of character to stand up to people above him even if he wanted to. Although I don't think he would want to anyway.

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Eric Youngs Contact Lense said:

Maybe not associated with his coaching career, but he would from his playing career?
Point 3 - that's a hefty accusation. He may have a different brief/expectation of how the Club will operate to previous managers and he may be there to implement a Club strategy with the Men's 1st team (arguably) so his role is different but "strength of character " doubts feel a little harsh? Someone who left his country to start off, then made big changes at a Club recently relegated from PL, leaving for a Club likely to be in a relegation battle must require a great deal of character I would have thought?
You might have some examples that make you feel that way?

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NooBHA said:

There are no accusations in my post. Only personal opinions.

To be honest I found your response a little difficult to understand apart from the bit about going to Sweden.

It doesn't take great strength of character to move. Millions of people do it all the time.

I have moved around myself many times. You apply for a job. You go for an interview. You get the job and you move.

It's not dead easy but neither is it overly difficult

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Eric Youngs Contact Lense said:

Maybe, but to move from where things are going well, safe places, needs a good amount of self-belief/confidence. People do move all the time, but not necessarily when things are going well. Apologies if muddled response - just intrigued what you have seen that suggests he can't stand up to others or change even if he wanted to.

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Kalimantan Gull said:

This is a real interesting time for Potter and how he coaches the team from now to the end of the season. He's been building something good and there have been a more promising performances than bad ones. Whilst there are a lot of teams out there that are playing a game to survive, from Sheffield United to Palace to Watford, we are building a style of play, blooding youth, building a squad.

But absolutely no doubt about it that right now we are facing a relegation battle. So will Potter stick or twist? Stick with what he is doing, keep on the same path with the faith that it will come good and lead on to sunnier times in the future. Or change it around, pick Duffy and Murray, change the style of play and go backs against the wall to keep us up, then go again next season? We've been here before, Slade putting Hart up front during his great escape; Hughton recalling Bruno for the run-in last season. Old heads, wise heads to do a job when the chips are down.

Like most I was surprised Murray wasn't used last night. Most of the season he has looked like his effectiveness at the top level has just gone, but there were signs of life at Everton, and if he's good enough to be on the bench he's good enough to get on the pitch. As for Duffy, well we know he wins stuff in the air and is dominant when we are defending deep. If we're going to try to smash and grab a couple of 1-0 wins, he's the man. I think Webster is going to be a top top footballer but last night I wouldn't have complained if someone just told him to have a rest out of the firing line for a few games.

On the other hand - so much about Potter's style really IS working. Looked at in isolation we've played Bournemouth off the park, gone toe-to-toe with Chelsea, came back strongly away at Everton coming agonisingly close to an equaliser on three occasions, a good first half against Villa and controlled large parts of last nights away game with 21 shots and getting undone in a 5-minute period of madness. If thats a run of games which results in the wailing and gnashing of teeth that we see on NSC, maybe its just because our expectations have been raised so high by some of the early season performances and results. We're only just over half-way through the season after all, its not last-chance saloon by any means. Our home form hasn't collapsed. There may not be much too wrong that a bit of good fortune can't change.

But Potter will be feeling the heat. And standing in the crowd at Bournemouth last night it was clear there were a lot of murmurings and discontent around. We're in a slump and we're going to learn a lot about what kind of manager he is over the next few months, whether he has the courage of his convictions and can bring the squad with him, and can keep the fans with him.

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NooBHA said:

1. He won't change because he possibly doesn't have the experience to do it another way.

2. He can't change because he was given the " gig " on the Mantra to play that way.

3. He won't be allowed to because he will be railroaded from those above him to continue that way and he really doesn't have the "standing" within the game or I personally feel, the strength of character to stand up to people above him even if he wanted to. Although I don't think he would want to anyway.

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NooBHA said:

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Where was he before he moved to Sweden ?

I have no Idea. There must have been something he saw in that move to make it attractive enough to uproot himself and his family.

As I said. I have moved location many times in my career; however, not once did I move for a role that was less attractive to me than the job I was already in and I don't suppose there can be too many that would.

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Kalimantan Gull said:

This is a real interesting time for Potter and how he coaches the team from now to the end of the season. He's been building something good and there have been a more promising performances than bad ones. Whilst there are a lot of teams out there that are playing a game to survive, from Sheffield United to Palace to Watford, we are building a style of play, blooding youth, building a squad.

But absolutely no doubt about it that right now we are facing a relegation battle. So will Potter stick or twist? Stick with what he is doing, keep on the same path with the faith that it will come good and lead on to sunnier times in the future. Or change it around, pick Duffy and Murray, change the style of play and go backs against the wall to keep us up, then go again next season? We've been here before, Slade putting Hart up front during his great escape; Hughton recalling Bruno for the run-in last season. Old heads, wise heads to do a job when the chips are down.

Like most I was surprised Murray wasn't used last night. Most of the season he has looked like his effectiveness at the top level has just gone, but there were signs of life at Everton, and if he's good enough to be on the bench he's good enough to get on the pitch. As for Duffy, well we know he wins stuff in the air and is dominant when we are defending deep. If we're going to try to smash and grab a couple of 1-0 wins, he's the man. I think Webster is going to be a top top footballer but last night I wouldn't have complained if someone just told him to have a rest out of the firing line for a few games.

On the other hand - so much about Potter's style really IS working. Looked at in isolation we've played Bournemouth off the park, gone toe-to-toe with Chelsea, came back strongly away at Everton coming agonisingly close to an equaliser on three occasions, a good first half against Villa and controlled large parts of last nights away game with 21 shots and getting undone in a 5-minute period of madness. If thats a run of games which results in the wailing and gnashing of teeth that we see on NSC, maybe its just because our expectations have been raised so high by some of the early season performances and results. We're only just over half-way through the season after all, its not last-chance saloon by any means. Our home form hasn't collapsed. There may not be much too wrong that a bit of good fortune can't change.

But Potter will be feeling the heat. And standing in the crowd at Bournemouth last night it was clear there were a lot of murmurings and discontent around. We're in a slump and we're going to learn a lot about what kind of manager he is over the next few months, whether he has the courage of his convictions and can bring the squad with him, and can keep the fans with him.

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Stumpy Tim said:

Last night when Bournemouth attacked they pushed 4 or 5 in the box. When we attacked Maupay was usually the only player in the box, and our midfield waited outside. It was really noticable

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Eric Youngs Contact Lense said:

Understood (Dont completely agree that its easy to move) but what have you see in Potter that says he hasn't got strength of character? Not being difficult, genuine question..

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