[Albion] Player Ratings vs Villa

lizard · Jan 18, 2020

Weststander said:
Someone once said every player should start with a 6 base in ratings.

To me that’s utter bollocks, what are 0 to 5 for?

Jahanbakhsh - I don’t blame him in the slightest. It’s just that under my system of using the full 0 to 10, he simply couldn’t get into the match in his brief cameo, hence the 2.

I think we may have been watching different matches.

WilburySeagull · Jan 18, 2020

Weststander said:
Someone once said every player should start with a 6 base in ratings.

To me that’s utter bollocks, what are 0 to 5 for?

Jahanbakhsh - I don’t blame him in the slightest. It’s just that under my system of using the full 0 to 10, he simply couldn’t get into the match in his brief cameo, hence the 2.

Is this a wind up? Our 3 subs were Gross Montoya and Murray!

dazzer6666 · Jan 18, 2020

Super Steve Earle said:
May I take the opportunity to point out something that may have not been obvious to all the fans today. Propper was outstanding. Grealish had room to influence the game just once and that was only after Mooy's unfortunate error which led to the goal. Other than that, Propper made sure that that Grealish was shackled throughout the match, by others or himself. He played superbly as a senior pro, repeatedly glancing at Grealish, every 15 seconds or so, measuring distances from the nearest Albion player, stepping in when needed and ensuring Grealish was never truly free to do any damage apart from the goalscoring opportunity. No wonder Mooy looked so mortified. The plan nearly worked perfectly and in my opinion made Propper a better choice for Man of the Match.

Good post.....

herecomesaregular · Jan 18, 2020

Publius Ovidius said:
Yes 100% agree with that....apart from Webster who I thought was a 6;

You 100% agree but you'd make a change to the ratings? You don't 100% agree then do you.

Disagree with most it seems in that I'd give Maupay a 7 - he made an effort and a nuisance of himself despite looking a bit off form and unable to control the ball. He was however instrumental in the goal and had the only other decent effort on target (v good save by Reina).

Webster a 6, his best performance for a while but still average.

Mooy a 5, his error cost the goal and not much came off for him (although understandable as they mobbed him whenever he had the ball).

No width from the Albion today meant lots of poor attempts at intricate passing through the middle, which they're not good enough to carry off.

Potter a 4, his tinkering is starting to annoy me.

drummerboy10 · Jan 18, 2020

Weststander said:
Someone once said every player should start with a 6 base in ratings.

To me that’s utter bollocks, what are 0 to 5 for?

Jahanbakhsh - I don’t blame him in the slightest. It’s just that under my system of using the full 0 to 10, he simply couldn’t get into the match in his brief cameo, hence the 2.

Hampster Gull · Jan 18, 2020

Weststander said:
First 45 - 100% spot on, Propper (with help) elimintated Grealish from the game, bar the time on the other flank where other players conspired to give Grealish a run in on goal.

Second 45 - Propper had run out of gas and did not do that. The Albion team gave Grealish the freedom of the Amex, Potter just stood there and allowed it.

It does feel Potter has lots to learn at this level, and we are part of his learning journey. Let’s hope it doesn’t take us down

Weststander · Jan 18, 2020

lizard said:
I think we may have been watching different matches.

...

Blunder by me!

Weststander · Jan 18, 2020

WilburySeagull said:
Is this a wind up? Our 3 subs were Gross Montoya and Murray!

Hands up .... error. And I was there, NS Block D.

Sea Cider · Jan 18, 2020

Weststander said:
I said that I’m uncritical of Jahanbakhsh. If you feel he was ok, where’s the big difference?

This feels like an alternate reality conversion :lolol:

WilburySeagull · Jan 18, 2020

Weststander said:
I said that I’m uncritical ofa Jahanbakhsh. If you feel he was ok, where’s the big difference?

The big difference is that JAHANBAKHSH never got on to play! He was an unused sub! As I said above our subs eere Gross Montoya and Murray. Hope that is clear now!

aolstudios · Jan 18, 2020

Ryan 6
Alzate 6
Bernardo 8 MoM
Dunk 6
Webster 6
Mooy 5.5
Stephens 7.5
Propper 8
Trossard 6
Connolly 5
Maupay 7

aolstudios · Jan 18, 2020

Super Steve Earle said:
May I take the opportunity to point out something that may have not been obvious to all the fans today. Propper was outstanding. Grealish had room to influence the game just once and that was only after Mooy's unfortunate error which led to the goal. Other than that, Propper made sure that that Grealish was shackled throughout the match, by others or himself. He played superbly as a senior pro, repeatedly glancing at Grealish, every 15 seconds or so, measuring distances from the nearest Albion player, stepping in when needed and ensuring Grealish was never truly free to do any damage apart from the goalscoring opportunity. No wonder Mooy looked so mortified. The plan nearly worked perfectly and in my opinion made Propper a better choice for Man of the Match.

Yep
Quiet class

Seagull1989 · Jan 18, 2020

Ryan -6- don’t recall him making a save
Alzate -7- coped with Grealish well and offered an outlet on the right.
Webster -5- looks clumsy and stop passing the ball across our goal
Dunk -6- quiet game by his standards
Bernardo-8- MOTM - classy performance and his attitude to wining the ball even when falling to the ground was excellent
Propper -6- good first half but midfield went missing in 2nd half
Mooy -6- see propper
Stephens -8- been a critic of him before but today he was excellent . Made some good challenges and tracked back well
Trossard -6- good goal but looked tired in 2nd half
Connolly -5- reminiscent of CMS?
Maupay -7- was getting into space in between midfield and defence, decent effort on the volley and showed a bit of passion

Montoya -5- would need to see the Villa goal again but where was he ?
Murray -6- was at least trying and made a nuisance of himself
Gross -6- decent delivery of set pieces which was missing throughout the game

Boroseagull · Jan 18, 2020

Super Steve Earle said:
May I take the opportunity to point out something that may have not been obvious to all the fans today. Propper was outstanding. Grealish had room to influence the game just once and that was only after Mooy's unfortunate error which led to the goal. Other than that, Propper made sure that that Grealish was shackled throughout the match, by others or himself. He played superbly as a senior pro, repeatedly glancing at Grealish, every 15 seconds or so, measuring distances from the nearest Albion player, stepping in when needed and ensuring Grealish was never truly free to do any damage apart from the goalscoring opportunity. No wonder Mooy looked so mortified. The plan nearly worked perfectly and in my opinion made Propper a better choice for Man of the Match.

Yep....absolute class, always in position to take a pass, always there when needed. A point well made during the match commentary.

DavidinSouthampton · Jan 18, 2020

Super Steve Earle said:
May I take the opportunity to point out something that may have not been obvious to all the fans today. Propper was outstanding. Grealish had room to influence the game just once and that was only after Mooy's unfortunate error which led to the goal. Other than that, Propper made sure that that Grealish was shackled throughout the match, by others or himself. He played superbly as a senior pro, repeatedly glancing at Grealish, every 15 seconds or so, measuring distances from the nearest Albion player, stepping in when needed and ensuring Grealish was never truly free to do any damage apart from the goalscoring opportunity. No wonder Mooy looked so mortified. The plan nearly worked perfectly and in my opinion made Propper a better choice for Man of the Match.

I thought Propper was great today. There was one particular instance in the game I loved today. Second half Grealish charging up the left wing with Davy tracking him, caught him and outmuscled him to come out in front of him with the ball. Is it my imagination, or is Davy a littlemoremuscular recently.

aolstudios · Jan 19, 2020

DavidinSouthampton said:
I thought Propper was great today. There was one particular instance in the game I loved today. Second half Grealish charging up the left wing with Davy tracking him, caught him and outmuscled him to come out in front of him with the ball. Is it my imagination, or is Davy a littlemoremuscular recently.

He is. He also has that edge of well controlled spite that the best Dutch players seem to have.
Could've done with a couple more like Davy today, we're worryingly naive

Uh_huh_him · Jan 19, 2020

DavidinSouthampton said:
I thought Propper was great today. There was one particular instance in the game I loved today. Second half Grealish charging up the left wing with Davy tracking him, caught him and outmuscled him to come out in front of him with the ball. Is it my imagination, or is Davy a littlemoremuscular recently.

He did that in the first half I think ( or did he do it in both halves?)

It was right in front of me in the north stand. Superb to watch.

Icy Gull · Jan 19, 2020

Super Steve Earle said:
May I take the opportunity to point out something that may have not been obvious to all the fans today. Propper was outstanding. Grealish had room to influence the game just once and that was only after Mooy's unfortunate error which led to the goal. Other than that, Propper made sure that that Grealish was shackled throughout the match, by others or himself. He played superbly as a senior pro, repeatedly glancing at Grealish, every 15 seconds or so, measuring distances from the nearest Albion player, stepping in when needed and ensuring Grealish was never truly free to do any damage apart from the goalscoring opportunity. No wonder Mooy looked so mortified. The plan nearly worked perfectly and in my opinion made Propper a better choice for Man of the Match.

Indeed and his jockeying with Grealish down the touchline where Propper came away with the ball was a highlight of his battling qualities today, Propper is good at finding time on the ball, and general ball skills but he seems to be adding a tougher edge to his game too now.

Edit did not see that [MENTION=22975]DavidinSouthampton[/MENTION] had already mentioned this

Jesus Gul · Jan 19, 2020

aolstudios said:
Ryan 6
Alzate 6
Bernardo 8 MoM
Dunk 6
Webster 6
Mooy 5.5
Stephens 7.5
Propper 8
Trossard 6
Connolly 5
Maupay 7

This is how I’d rate it but swapping alzate and maupay’s mark

DJ NOBO · Jan 19, 2020

Weststander said:
Ryan 7

Alzate 6.5
Webster 5 (vulnerable)
Dunk 4 - (vulnerable, some positional blunders that would’ve had us screaming for the head of Webster or Burn)
Bernardo 8 MOTM

Stephens 6.5
Propper 6.5
Mooy - 5 (marked by 3 players, an impossible job)
Trossard 6.5

Maupay 4 (preoccupied by tussles with opponents)
Connolly 3

Gross 4
Murray 4
Jahanbakhsh 2 (couldn’t get into the match)

Potter 2 (a shocking second 45 from the Hughton School of Nothingness. A very poor and costly day at the office).

Aj.....lol.
I, for one, will not let you forget this !

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