[Albion] Atmosphere today

dazzer6666 · Dec 9, 2019

DarrenFreemansPerm said:
I’ve never really known why or if there even is a rift between certain singing factions, I personally haven’t seen/heard The Judge in the centre for a good few seasons but he was always well received as far as I could tell. Somehow we really need to coordinate the North, but it’s been like it is for years.

Not sure it's a rift, just that the sides/centre don't seem to be able to hear each other..............it's got to start in the centre really. The Judge is def missed - outstandingly loud voice (although quite a few if I remember from comments on here seemed to object a bit to him and his disciples' efforts to get others involved from time to time) - he hasn't been going to games for a while now as far as I know.

Seasidesage · Dec 9, 2019

Atmosphere is increasingly becoming an embarrassment to be honest. All kinds of reasons from gentrification of the fan base to ground layout and over zealous stewarding.

What to do is more of a problem. I think the club need to help here. A singing area with god help me, drums would help to coordinate things more. I've never wanted drums or any of the ultra type stuff but all the other well documented factors are overwhelming any effort to get things going. The atmosphere was bad when it opened but has got worse year on year since. Some sort of positive action is needed to get things going again...

herecomesaregular · Dec 9, 2019

father_and_son said:
As part of that Police Box crew I can say that we struggle to actually hear what's coming out from the left side so generally can only coordinate the Allbbiiioooon or Seaaaggggullls chants.

Here's an idea... What if there were speakers/mics positioned at each end of the NS? Not talking about piping in crowd noise around the ground, but just enough that the two noisiest groups can hear each other clearly and cooperate (or at least not compete). Can't be that difficult for the club to arrange and a coordinated NS might just wake up the old f*rts in the East!

Agreed, maybe the club could look into trialling something like this?

First season was deafening at the Amex, and back then I sat WSL south goalline. Since moved to NW which I like for noise (I hate a behind the goal view now that I'm older so I would never go in the North). Numerous games since the early days it has been plenty loud enough and great atmosphere. I do regularly join in a song, love doing so, but I wouldn't ever start a chant.

But it does pain me that you can see that there are two opposing songs going on in the North simultaneously. I don't think there is any petty rivalry it just seems to me that each end simply cannot hear each other.

Solve that conundrum (and I think the emphasis is on the club not the fans with this), so both ends of the North can sing the same song simultaneously and in sync, and the rest of the ground will follow.

Also agree after the stadium tour that all the club is really interested in is the corporate pound now. There is so much space in some areas where extra seats could be put in. Also, why in the balcony above the south are there only, what, half a dozen seats? Seems a ridiculous waste to me (guide had no answer, purely wanted to say how great the club was rar, rar, rar).

FloatLeft · Dec 9, 2019

Arthur said:
if we'd taken 3k to a midweek London game the atmosphere would have been buzzing. There would have been a 30 page thread on here about people turning up drunk or standing in the aisles

I saw one bloke on the concourse Thursday night who was so drunk he’d pi$$ed himself.

RossyG · Dec 9, 2019

The Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems all support safe standing in their manifestos (no, really!). So after this election, we could theoretically have a safe standing section.

But is the club at the board level interested?

Pretty pink fairy · Dec 9, 2019

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Wilko · Dec 9, 2019

Seasidesage said:
Atmosphere is increasingly becoming an embarrassment to be honest. All kinds of reasons from gentrification of the fan base to ground layout and over zealous stewarding.

What to do is more of a problem. I think the club need to help here. A singing area with god help me, drums would help to coordinate things more. I've never wanted drums or any of the ultra type stuff but all the other well documented factors are overwhelming any effort to get things going. The atmosphere was bad when it opened but has got worse year on year since. Some sort of positive action is needed to get things going again...

I have said it MANY a time on here, I do not want a drum but I think we need one. Name any of the best football atmospheres on the planet and they all have a drum in order to coordinate. To me it is about how you use it:

* Do not bang it aimlessly like the England band or that noddy lot up the road
* Do use it to keep a rhythm and pace once a chant has already started

I know loads of people are against it and fair enough, perhaps a compromise would be to use it for one home game to see how it goes down. If the consensus after is that everyone hates it then fair enough. I have always thought having the drummer or the capo on the shelf would help coordinate between the north and the west.

Blues Rock DJ · Dec 9, 2019

Bozza said:
Everything felt a bit flat today, I agree (until we scored).

The game didn't sell out, there were a LOT of empty seats and those that were there went through the motions a bit.

It was bloody loud after the goals - a real illustration of what the Amex crowd is capable of - but we seem to need to take a lead from the team right now, rather than leading the way ourselves.

Nail and head ! I'm a 70 year old fart, my noisy days at football matches are well past me, but up to 35 minutes yesterday there was bugger all to shout about tbf !

BN41Albion · Dec 9, 2019

Pavilionaire said:
Why would the atmosphere be any good late afternoon on a Sunday before Christmas?

When we sign up for a season ticket what we want is that ritual on a Saturday - a few beers beforehand, then the match, then enjoy yourself afterwards with a day off to recover on a Sunday.

Sunday football is the double whammy, of both robbing fans of their Saturday fix AND f*cking up what is supposed to be a family day. Most people can't drink as much on a Sunday because of work the next day, you get back home at half seven and it's a race against time to get some dinner before the decent telly.

Sunday football is bollocks.

As for atmosphere, in that middle third of the season the weather's shit and there's nothing on the line to get too worked up about; win, lose or draw there's another game in a few days time.

Christ, how many shit excuses in one post?

Atmosphere was shit at the start of the season, under a new exciting manager, on Saturday at 3pm, when the weather was lovely...

... Just like most grounds up and down the country. Even the 'famous Anfield atmosphere' is shit most of the time unless it's a big game.

I think the truth is a lot of fanbases have been heavily gentrified. And as a nation we've always been better away fans when in more of a pack mentality. England fans abroad classic example.

zefarelly · Dec 9, 2019

Justice said:
Yep I’m glad I did all the 80’s 90’s football to young for the 70’s, away games used to be sometimes scary but exciting at the same time love an edge to a game, OB dogs foaming at the mouth shoved into an escort to the ground majority of fans working class lads on the piss. Never be the same even if we did go down. Some will say how terrible it was but was it really? Or do they prefer sitting in a library?

Met some great guys that I still see today all had your back if got a bit tasty, all I see is teens still having mummy wipe a bit of pie of their face. I mean going to football with your mum ffs.

Quite. 2 years ago I took my lad (12) to the Swansea game, Imwas reminiscing about Swansea at home circa 82? A mid week game. On a school night! I went with my cousin Ben on the train from Shoreham on our own. We were younger than my lad at the time.

The minor element of fear was great. From what I saw we knew we'd be alright, as long as the big lads behind us didn't run us over

Bottom line of football was a Saturday vent from the working week for a working class man/lad. Now it's a middle class corporate entertainment industry.

Stat Brother · Dec 9, 2019

Pavilionaire said:
Why would the atmosphere be any good late afternoon on a Sunday before Christmas?

When we sign up for a season ticket what we want is that ritual on a Saturday - a few beers beforehand, then the match, then enjoy yourself afterwards with a day off to recover on a Sunday.

Sunday football is the double whammy, of both robbing fans of their Saturday fix AND f*cking up what is supposed to be a family day. Most people can't drink as much on a Sunday because of work the next day, you get back home at half seven and it's a race against time to get some dinner before the decent telly.

Sunday football is bollocks.

As for atmosphere, in that middle third of the season the weather's shit and there's nothing on the line to get too worked up about; win, lose or draw there's another game in a few days time.

Again I don't disagree with anything you've written.

But it doesn't add up when there were threads bemoaning the atmosphere for both Leicester & Norwich.
I'll hazard a guess aside from Tottingham and Everton, there's been similar threads about every other Saturday kick off.

Sunday isn't to blame for the atmosphere.
I guess the only thing to blame is the expectation of the atmosphere.
Because in many posters eyes (or should that be ears) the expectation isn't even close to reality, hence these threads every week.

Justice · Dec 9, 2019

zefarelly said:
Quite. 2 years ago I took my lad (12) to the Swansea game, Imwas reminiscing about Swansea at home circa 82? A mid week game. On a school night! I went with my cousin Ben on the train from Shoreham on our own. We were younger than my lad at the time.

The minor element of fear was great. From what I saw we knew we'd be alright, as long as the big lads behind us didn't run us over

Bottom line of football was a Saturday vent from the working week for a working class man/lad. Now it's a middle class corporate entertainment industry.

When I was around 15 my dad was pottering around in the garden he said to me and my mate where you off to today lads Millwall dad, he laughed and said good luck with that and off we went to the Den. Nothing happened that day apart from losing 2-0 but we were bricking it when we arrived good days.

BN41Albion · Dec 9, 2019

Atmosphere absolute shyte at west Ham tonight, for a derby game too. It seems Monday evening isn't a 'good' time for generating atmosphere either.

raymondo · Dec 9, 2019

Albion should twin with Reykjavik United, including a fan-exchange program

Pavilionaire · Dec 10, 2019

BN41Albion said:
Christ, how many shit excuses in one post?

Atmosphere was shit at the start of the season, under a new exciting manager, on Saturday at 3pm, when the weather was lovely...

... Just like most grounds up and down the country. Even the 'famous Anfield atmosphere' is shit most of the time unless it's a big game.

I think the truth is a lot of fanbases have been heavily gentrified. And as a nation we've always been better away fans when in more of a pack mentality. England fans abroad classic example.

If you don't enjoy going then don't go.

I think there was more of a buzz at the start of the season when everything was fresh, new and exciting and we'd cuffed Watford. West Ham was briliant. Spurs was brilliant. Everton was memorable.

Stat Brother · Dec 10, 2019

Im going to run the gauntlet of Mr Barber but I reckon there's enough here to keep me on his good side.

Last week jnr got himself banned from the 21st century and all football.

So as to not waste my seat, my boss took his son, for about their 4th game (I normally buy them tickets)
He then asked for 2 more tickets for his dad and uncle, both over from Poland.

Apparently they were a little bemused at first but 'got right into the game, loved the atmosphere and went nuts for both our goals'
"You have two more fans back in Poland".

So at least some people enjoyed the atmosphere.

Bozza · Dec 29, 2019

dazzer6666 said:
On one of the games last night 'It's not football any more' was being chanted. Can see this catching on..........................

Bozza said:
I think that was at Norwich after the red card for Basham was VARed back to a yellow.

I thought the same as you - if that becomes widespread at a lot of game by a lot of fans it becomes very damaging to brand Premier League.

It's becoming a thing.

Harry Wilson's tackle · Dec 29, 2019

I watched a cracking game of football today. This thread is mostly a load of old bollocks. Old 'Harry Redknapp' bollocks. And that is quite some.

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