Clive Walker
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Would you vote to abolish the monarchy given the chance?
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[Politics] Royal Family
- Thread starter Clive Walker
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It was alright, anything with Eddie Yeats in will always be worth a watch.
**** me, another political thread.
Oh an no I would not.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,315
only once you've sorted out what to replace with.
wigman
Well-known member
No, however I can think of 1 or 2 members who I wish would do a disappearing act.
Pavilionaire
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
- 30,590
The Queen ROCKS!
Yep.
I can't think of any examples where voted representation hasn't been anything other than 100% successful for the people doing the voting...
...oh wait.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
- 17,124
Yep,
We are after 100% success or it is not worth doing.
I like the unofficial motto of the senate over here in Australia "Keep the ******** honest"
Not that the UK needs such a thing when you insist on continually voting for the Tories. It is fine to have another bunch of over entitled rich folk making sure they are looking after everything. And once you leave the EU they will be afforded even more of a free reign to make themselves.... sorry no I mean the UK ..... prosper.
No, I'm not related to the Queen.
GT49er
Well-known member
Well, that's your senate idea blown right out of the water for a start then.
studio150
Well-known member
The perfect solution
That makes sense.
However to be a senator, you must be nominated by the people, not just be a Brexiteer standing down for a Tory MP to have a clear run. Senators won’t be able to apply or campaign but I think 10yr stints would be better than lifetime peerages. Less than a hundred senators would be ideal.
We only have one elected group in our democracy out of the three levels (HoS, HoL & Monarchy). Progressive set-ups like the EU will have two elected groups with the unelected group at the bottom of the pile full of experts making policy.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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except the EU has one elected group, with power similar to the Lords.
for a reformed Lords we shouldnt be wedded to election, as it creates problems of its own (when same as common a free pass, or different then blocks). and there is a lot of merit to having well versed ex-ministers and politicans there, they know whats going on, without the need to tie a party line. a mix of some elected, some appointment, including from each county would be a good idea. all this probably misses the main, more important question, what powers would this second chamber have?
and all of this is rather removed from the question in hand about the monarch as head of state. would we want a US style one (near all powerful), Irish style (ceremonial) or something in between.
I rather like this idea for the HoL but my only concern is that it would become somewhat X Factor like. Can you imagine all those people that watch shit like Love Island teaming together and nominating some blonde bimbo off it ?
As for the Royal Family - I'd rather have a non-political Head of State, even if it's by the chance of birth, than a President Johnson, Corbyn, Blair, Thatcher etc.
It would be interesting to see whether attitudes change once Charles is in charge, as I think Liz is popular in a way he isn't which can change a lot of views.
Personally not much fussed either way. In an actual referendum I'd be a voter who could be swayed.
Personally not much fussed either way. In an actual referendum I'd be a voter who could be swayed.
Could you imagine the UK with a republic form of government like the US? Senators (2 from each county) and then a 400 or so House of Representatives.and a President elected by electoral college.
What would be the way to abolish the monarchy? Have Charles, William, George, Charlotte, Louis, Harry etc. all put to death?
What would be the way to abolish the monarchy? Have Charles, William, George, Charlotte, Louis, Harry etc. all put to death?
