[Politics] The General Election Thread

nicko31 said:

I've said it on here before and I'll say it again. If we lets these crooks get away with Brexit they can get away with anything...

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

Hopefully the courts may take umbrage to the tories trying to hancuff the legal system.

But I agree with you and as I have said before, despite failing to be persuaded in any way by the performance of Corbyn, I regard even a Corbyn government (which won't happen, but anyway) preferable to this evil shower. What next? He dodges Andrew Neil, and he wants to change the law so his madcap and dangerous initiatives cannot be stopped. We have never had a PM so dangerous. He's a sort of educated and more calculating version of Trump.

I see Mogg's demented Brexit Euro MP sister, has now jumped off Nigel's lap and into Tent Boris.

One thing I don't quite understand is what is Farage playing at? He has been saying that Boris' Brexit plans won't work. That's a bit like Paper Lace (The Night Chicago died) accusing Black Lace (Agadoo) of being a rubbish pop group.

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

Hopefully the courts may take umbrage to the tories trying to hancuff the legal system.

But I agree with you and as I have said before, despite failing to be persuaded in any way by the performance of Corbyn, I regard even a Corbyn government (which won't happen, but anyway) preferable to this evil shower. What next? He dodges Andrew Neil, and he wants to change the law so his madcap and dangerous initiatives cannot be stopped. We have never had a PM so dangerous. He's a sort of educated and more calculating version of Trump.

I see Mogg's demented Brexit Euro MP sister, has now jumped off Nigel's lap and into Tent Boris.

One thing I don't quite understand is what is Farage playing at? He has been saying that Boris' Brexit plans won't work. That's a bit like Paper Lace (The Night Chicago died) accusing Black Lace (Agadoo) of being a rubbish pop group.

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

Hopefully the courts may take umbrage to the tories trying to hancuff the legal system.

But I agree with you and as I have said before, despite failing to be persuaded in any way by the performance of Corbyn, I regard even a Corbyn government (which won't happen, but anyway) preferable to this evil shower. What next? He dodges Andrew Neil, and he wants to change the law so his madcap and dangerous initiatives cannot be stopped. We have never had a PM so dangerous. He's a sort of educated and more calculating version of Trump.

I see Mogg's demented Brexit Euro MP sister, has now jumped off Nigel's lap and into Tent Boris.

One thing I don't quite understand is what is Farage playing at? He has been saying that Boris' Brexit plans won't work. That's a bit like Paper Lace (The Night Chicago died) accusing Black Lace (Agadoo) of being a rubbish pop group.

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Mouldy Boots said:

I suppose I was asking a bit much of you two, I get it, you are both 'In box' type of guys.

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Raleigh Chopper said:

Nice try sonny, but yet again every thing you have said is totally wrong, I am not left wing, the rest was meant as a joke, you know, sense of humour, something you are totally devoid of (as well as any intelligence)
You are scraping around for a reason to have a pop and yet again you fail, you really are a stupid little man.
And I'm not even from Plymouth, I'm from Royal Tunbridge Wells, via Ascot, you probably have bin liners for curtains.
Pillock!

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nicko31 said:

I've said it on here before and I'll say it again. If we lets these crooks get away with Brexit they can get away with anything...

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

That's not what I said. I said if he delivers then people will be happy, and if he doesn't he'll be ousted.

I didnt say anything about whether he'll get in. (He obviously will).

I agree that some people don't care he's a liar, and will still vote for him. It is easier to do this now that Trump has been so successful (delivering some of his promises, still POTUS, for the time being, anyway, and still with spport of Sheffield Wednesday proportions). But this is because they think things will be great with Boris as PM. I don't think the people who are going to vote for Boris are doing so because they think he will make things worse.

Anyway, a lot of people will be like BG - they will still believe things have got better under Boris because that's what they want to believe. Like religious types who thank god for all their good fortune and pass off bad fortune as god's will (or work of the devil) - god always wins.

My expectation is that Boris will spaff everything up the wall, but I admit that I don't like Boris so my expecatation is clouded by dislike. Maybe he'll Get Brexit Done and everything will be well. I don't believe that but again that's partly because I don't want to leave the EU.

Bottom line is it is still possible that Boris will make things work, and if he doesn't he'll be ousted. That was all I was saying.

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Plooks said:

How the hell would you know? I do not even know yet.

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GT49er said:

The current government had a mandate to do it as a result of the 2016 referendum, but were thwarted by leavers in Parliament who chose not to honour the referendum as they had original voted to do.

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Plooks said:

You have exactly summerised what is wrong with out "democracy". You have to be one party or another. Your small minds can not cope with someone having views that are not completely partisan. We need more fair representation and mlre coalitions and then maybe we will have a government that represents the views of the people.

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BensGrandad said:

I can assure you that it didnt and didnt under Wilson or Callaghan either like most I suffered, as always, under a Labour PM for the debt the country was left in and I dread to think what that would be under Corbyn and his cronies.

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dazzer6666 said:

Johnson is going to get in, with a just about workable majority for a short time until some his own team leave because they realise they can’t work with him. He’ll carry on regardless, ****ing everything up that he touches. Meanwhile, Labour will have a short period of post-election infighting before a big clearout and new leader comes to the fore (as yet untouted), who proves to be very capable and rips BoJo to pieces week after week. BoJo’s government eventually collapses, there is another GE in about 3 years which Labour win comprehensively due to the carnage caused by BoJo.

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Hamilton said:

That said, the same bleeding heart liberals who were baying for someone to do something about Saddam are now the same people calling Blair a war criminal. He went to war on the wrong pretext, the troops were not ready and not all paths had been exhausted. He made an error of judgment that cost lives.

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GT49er said:

Sorry to rain on your parade, but leaving the EU is not an illegal act. The current government had a mandate to do it as a result of the 2016 referendum, but were thwarted by leavers in Parliament who chose not to honour the referendum as they had original voted to do. If the Tories win a clear majority in this upcoming election, with leaving the EU as part of their manifesto, they will have an even stronger democratic mandate to do so. It will not be illegal, although I recognise it will upset some people.

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GT49er said:

Sorry to rain on your parade, but leaving the EU is not an illegal act. The current government had a mandate to do it as a result of the 2016 referendum, but were thwarted by leavers in Parliament who chose not to honour the referendum as they had original voted to do. If the Tories win a clear majority in this upcoming election, with leaving the EU as part of their manifesto, they will have an even stronger democratic mandate to do so. It will not be illegal, although I recognise it will upset some people.

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Two Professors said:

Says the clown from the Soviet Socialist Republic of Plymouth,who thinks Swinson and Abbott are marvelous because they have big breasts..What a Chopper!

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Bodian said:

Can you please give some examples of how you personally suffered under the Wilson, Callaghan, and Blair governments??




Yes - but we'll have left the EU by then , so he'll be a 'hero'.




The Tories would have been at war twice as quick. At least Blair did attempt to reason a bit with Bush and change his determination before giving way and being his poodle.

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