[Football] St Pauli v Hamburg SV (7.30)Ostigard starts, Gyökeres sub.

Swansman said:

Yeah or like existing close to a road with cars.. awful stuff.. happens to a lot of us though.

Its almost as if there is no way to be 100% safe from pollution, accidents, unhealthy food and other dangers. Its almost as if you should just give up, accept you might not turn 100 years old and just live the days you got to the fullest - just ignore the fact that the beer you had is up to no good.

People seem very keen on using every possible argument to defend a football culture that has been raped by politicians, commercial interests and Saudi-Qatarian-Chinese club owners keen on filling the arenas with their NPC business partners and wealthy tourists.

The other day I saw some FA Cup game played on Highbury just 20 years ago or so and only in that relatively short time period, it was obvious that the change is immense. They've turned the PL into some dead ****ing art show or cheese exhibition or whatever and people just buy it.



Ehe, you'd imagine.. but no. While we are completely dead as a people and society, our football is alive and kicking.

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Nottseagull said:

Swansman is, actually, Swedish


Swansman will need to well immersed in English to know that means you're undecided.

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PILTDOWN MAN said:

Oh yes great, might as well sit next to a forest fire. That is awful. I go to watch football not fill my lungs with acrid smoke. One flare is bad enough.

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

Football's shit though. Take your pick, do you want to watch a stadium full of pyro ponces, or a decent performance at the highest level?

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patchamalbion said:

The German football experience is just so, so much better

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BensGrandad said:

I agree 100% absolute lunacy and neither needed or wanted by the majority glad it doesn't happen here.

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BN41Albion said:

Says something really when even the Swedes - who seem to be pretty calm, chilled folk on the whole compared to the likes of the Greeks and Turkish who are a bit bonkers and insanely passionate in life in general - can muster that kind of atmosphere.

As others have said though, I'm not bothered about pyro etc, we've never gone in for that in this country really, but we really have lost something atmosphere wise in our stadiums, hugely because of pricing and the level of customer 'experience' packages we have now. Prime example being Spurs' new stadium and all the ridiculously fancy stuff they have, and even the new 'Dugout' 'experience' at the Amex.

The Premier League being a world wide phenomenon hasn't helped, either. So many tourists at the games soaking up the 'experience'

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maltaseagull said:

I did hear a rumour that PB was considering a section where, for a premium price.you can have a view restricted by smoke for 90 minutes and have the noise made by a few of the crowd enhanced many times over until it becomes deafening and within that section.

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maltaseagull said:

I did hear a rumour that PB was considering a section where, for a premium price.you can have a view restricted by smoke for 90 minutes and have the noise made by a few of the crowd enhanced many times over until it becomes deafening and within that section.

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