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    Looks like Middlesbrough still have the huff over Derby passing the FFP regulations by selling their ground to effectively their owner at twice the price the ground was worth on the accounting books.

    Not sure what financial loss Middlesbrough will seek to cover but play off final always billed as the £100m+ game.

    Will be interesting to see how this progresses
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      **** Boro!
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      Lot of clubs do things to get around the rules (apparently). Hard to prove it in the end as its worth what someone is willing to pay.
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      So long as The Complete And Utter Shyster is the judge they will win
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      Lot of clubs do things to get around the rules (apparently). Hard to prove it in the end as its worth what someone is willing to pay.
      Not that hard. You get an independent valuer to run the rule over it, just as you would do to get a loan against an asset. You get a limit on LTV, and the bank would just let you inflate the value to whatever you needed for the LTV calculation to work.

      I wonder whether whether Boro are actually after Derby in all of this, or just trying to blow a whole in the FFP regulations, and show that they are worthless, unenforceable, and therefore either need tightening up or just done away with, as they really have no point in being there if accountants can just drive a truck through them.

      Sadly my view is that FFP is a solid idea, but VERY difficult to enforce as there are some very hard things to value around sponsorship and marketing.
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      The sense of entitlement at clubs like Boro is mind-bending.

      Regarding Woodgate, I had a feeling he might struggle as manager when Gibson appointed him. He'll be given time. Unfortunately for their fans that might lead to leaving the Championship in the southerly direction.
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      Not sure of the wording of FFP but I guess the ground is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
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      So they are arguing that Derby should have had a points deduction ?

      Well if there has been any rule breaking then they should have. If it is not in the rules, then there seems to be no merit in this legal action.
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      So they are arguing that Derby should have had a points deduction ?

      Well if there has been any rule breaking then they should have. If it is not in the rules, then there seems to be no merit in this legal action.
      Echoes of that whole Spygate fiasco last season.
      Weren't Boro one of many Championship teams demanding Leeds be deducted points too?

      Gibson has been given the reputation of a decent, honourable chairman over the years, but they appear to be a snide outfit.
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      The sense of entitlement at clubs like Boro is mind-bending.

      Regarding Woodgate, I had a feeling he might struggle as manager when Gibson appointed him. He'll be given time. Unfortunately for their fans that might lead to leaving the Championship in the southerly direction.
      I don't think its a sense of entitlement to play by the rules and be annoyed when other clubs don't. Paul Barber made a big point of how we were sticking by it and clubs like Bournemouth and Leicester weren't, and I don't think that made us entitled. I think it's great that Middlesbrough are taking a stand, I wish more clubs were willing to rather than just playing along.

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