[Politics] How is Boris doing?

Horton's halftime iceberg said:

This has just tickled me all morning, how can they ever let him lose around the streets of the UK, he will be doorstepped by all day long.

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Simster said:

Although I am naturally left of centre, your opinions are spectacularly similar to mine.

In fact, I feel terrible about myself that I was so anti-Major/Clarke back in the 1990s. What was I thinking? Oh for the same level of competence, honestly and decency on the front benches now. If Major ran the Tories now, I'd be there like a shot.

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Greg Bobkin said:

When I first watched that clip I thought it had been dubbed. I'm still not entirely convinced that it hasn't been, to be honest. The clarity of the voices is very clear for one thing – unless it's been picked up on a mic that Johnson is wearing?

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Greg Bobkin said:

When I first watched that clip I thought it had been dubbed. I'm still not entirely convinced that it hasn't been, to be honest. The clarity of the voices is very clear for one thing – unless it's been picked up on a mic that Johnson is wearing?

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Horton's halftime iceberg said:

7 Minutes and 4 seconds in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00085qx/bbc-news-at-six-05092019

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Horton's halftime iceberg said:

This has just tickled me all morning, how can they ever let him lose around the streets of the UK, he will be doorstepped all day long.

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CheeseRolls said:

It is a classy move. I would love to tell the PM how he has inspired me to action and then ask him where would he like me to start digging the ditch?

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ALBION28 said:

Like you are am centre left. As I recall Majors government fell due to corruption so not a great example As for Corbyn I do not fall for the right wing media attack on Labours leader. Being up there in age I recall the same was said by the tory press of Gaitskell, Wilson, Callaghan , Foot, Kinnock, Smith and now Corbyn . I leave out Blair as they loved the pink tory. I prefer not to listen to clips taken out of concept or Corbyn's head stuck on a chicken aka the 'sun' nonsense but listen to the man himself, in full. He will get my vote.

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Horton's halftime iceberg said:

In fact like when PM Brown was caught out saying 'that bigoted women', PM Johnson you can see is clearly miked up as its part of the Laura Kuenssberg news piece his team have clearly agreed to.

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Bozza said:

I think this blaming of right wing media is somewhat lazy by many Corbyn fans. It's a very convenient way to brush away criticism of their hero.

I consume very little media. I don't take any newspapers and I barely visit the online sites of our national newspapers. Where I do, it tends to be the Guardian and the Independent - neither renowned for their support of the Conservative Party.

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Gwylan said:

The tweet from MP, Nick Boles (former Tory, now independent), says it all.

"The parliamentary term is less than 3 days old and already the world has discovered what whose of us who have worked with Boris Johnson have always known: he is cowardly, weak, vindictive and without morals. Behold your Prime Minister, ladies and gentlemen."

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Bold Seagull said:

To be fair to Corbyn he has tried to be consistent for 3 years. He hasn't seen it as 17m or 16m, he's seen it as 33m almost evenly split. He's looked to respect the portion of the 17m that voted for him, as well as portion of 16m - hence his position of a soft exit, and resisting a second referendum even from the staunchest of pressure from remain within his party. He's looked more statesmanlike this week than perhaps at anytime in his leadership. There are enough people finally thinking he may have been right. The accusations of not picking a side etc. now looking rather hollow as we see a government self destruct because it has done exactly that. At present, he does appear to have enabled a unified opposite with the other parties.

The Torygraph and Sun can cry cowards etc. but it is all sounding very very hollow. This time more than ever polls could be absolutely meaningless leading up to the next election. People are finally getting bored with Brexit and are remembering we have our own country to consider and run. This really is what the next election should be fought on. The opposition is exactly right in resisting this being made a one policy election. There is much more at stake.

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Pavilionaire said:

Last night on QT Emily Thornberry was pinned down by Fiona Bruce on Labour's Brexit position were they to win an election. As she was floundering the Brexiteer tag-team of Iain Dale and Richard Tyce put the boot in, ridiculing her personal 'Remain' position of getting a deal with the EU then potentially campaigning against Labour's own Deal in a Second Referendum.

Labour cannot continue with their 2017 Manifesto pledge of "honouring the outcome of the 2016 EU Referendum" - whilst simultaneously admitting Remainer sympathies and espousing a Second Referendum - and expect working class voters in Northern constituencies to vote for them and not Boris or The Brexit Party.

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Pavilionaire said:

Last night on QT Emily Thornberry was pinned down by Fiona Bruce on Labour's Brexit position were they to win an election. As she was floundering the Brexiteer tag-team of Iain Dale and Richard Tyce put the boot in, ridiculing her personal 'Remain' position of getting a deal with the EU then potentially campaigning against Labour's own Deal in a Second Referendum.

Labour cannot continue with their 2017 Manifesto pledge of "honouring the outcome of the 2016 EU Referendum" - whilst simultaneously admitting Remainer sympathies and espousing a Second Referendum - and expect working class voters in Northern constituencies to vote for them and not Boris or The Brexit Party.

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Bold Seagull said:

This I feel is part of the problem, people can't accept an honest opinion, it has to be a partisan position. I don't have an issue with a policy of negotiating a soft Brexit to honour the will of the first referendum, but putting that deal back to the people to decide. If you've negotiated that deal as the best deal possible for the country, but still feel that if it did go back to the people you would campaign for them to decide to remain, then you are doing what you feel is best for the country; 1. offering up the best deal you feel you can get 2. taking that back for a confirmatory vote. At least you would be offering what you feel are the two best options back to the electorate if that is the case.

There are no easy positions in all this.

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amexer said:

If we had election now Brexit party would take so many votes of Labour,Cons and Lib Dems that result would be distorted. Election has to be more then just about Brexit and this has to be sorted first. No good blaming Cons or Labour for Brexit mess because any govenment would struggle with different opinions in house. I was remainer but once vote was out any government had obligation to do so. There were 2 options ,Negotiate the best deal Europe who were in driving seat would allow or make it plain we would come out with no deal. All the time Europe dont consider latter will happen they will remain in charge of proceedings

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