[Cricket] Snowflake Aussies

wellquickwoody said:

Hello chap, Sure your boy will have plenty of opinions of this kind of behaviour from the Aussies. They really do have double standards.

A few weeks back during the Cricket World Cup the mainstream media here were all over the event. ,Our boys doing this, our boys playing brilliantly’ etc etc.,. Once they were knocked out the media coverage just vanished, not overnight, but during that very day. When the team were doing well they were the LEAD story on the news, later that day just a 30 second mention. When England won the tournament there was a seemingly slight pleasure that those from ‘over the ditch’ had lost but England had somehow ‘cheated’ their way to victory via the runs coming from the attempted run out. Cheated? Really?

Once the one day stuff was over we had the prospect of The Ashes. Mainstream media greeted this with slogans like ‘We’re going to smash the Poms!’, and ‘We have the only cricket trophy that matters’. I have learned that Aussies are very, very good salesmen of all that is good, be that sport, weather, a shiny new car whatever. They over enthuse about the slightest positive. When asked a standard greeting like ‘How do you do?’ (In Aussie that is ‘How are you travelling?’) they are always doing brilliantly, amazingly whatever the situation. As a Brit I sometimes give a standard UK response of ‘Not bad thank you, how about you?’. That is a negative answer here, you have not talked up the positive so you must be unhappy/doing badly/whatever.

And so to the Archer/Smith thing. The ball has been described as ‘violent’, as ‘vicious’, and ‘targetted’, as if it was something negative to be ashamed of. It was a great ball, a contest between two gladiators (one of whom is a cheating great player) and it was enthralling. The press here have even tried to say the later ball that caught the sub batsmen was ‘shameful’. In short, yes the Aussies are a tough bunch that face adversity with a strong chin and approach life with a can do attitude, and they will tell you all about it. Once things go against them they hide away and try to claim the moral high ground when the first opportunity arises, in short, yes, snowflakes.

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seagullwedgee said:

Excellent post WQW. My middle lad is home here for a couple of months taking in the whole series. Flies back to Southbank late Sept then drives across Oz to start a new chapter south of Perth. Met some great genuine Aussie BHA fans at the WHUFC match.

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Mellotron said:

There is no better example of "can give it but can't take it" in world sport than the Australian Cricket team. Genuinely pathetic.

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Audax said:

Let's not transfer the stupid opinions of a handful of fans over to the sportsmen on the field.

Every team, every country, has it's fair share of dickhead fans.

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seagullwedgee said:

Of course, the four of us went into banter overdrive as it all played out. The orchestrated cheating, as skipper, the crying on TV, the choosing not to wear side neck guards (which just about everyone has had retro-fitted after the Hughes incident) we gave it everything.

And then, right at that pivotal moment of banter max, Smith’s concussion replacement Labuschagne faced Archer, who promptly smashed him on the lid with a 93mph bumper, which sent him to the floor. Well, you couldn’t have scripted it better, we stood up and cheered and high fived, it was carnage in the Mound Stand.... and the Snowflakes melted in the heat...

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Brighton Lines said:

Not quite sure why you were so gleeful at someone being floored by a bouncer. It happened to me once, when I was 12. Not a pleasant experience although at somewhat less than 93mph. No headgear though...

The bouncer is part of the game. Although taking delight at its worst excesses is wrong. The small pocket of booing on Saturday when Smith initially departed was pure cringe. That said, he shouldn't have returned. He was in no fit state as his hideous dismissal showed.

Nothing wrong with a little chin music. But no need for glutinous indulgence in its potential effects.

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Brighton Lines said:

The small pocket of booing on Saturday when Smith initially departed was pure cringe.

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Mellotron said:

Guessing you've never read up on Smith, Warner, Langer, the "good bloke" culture, the implicit racism etc? Obviously everyone is aware of the blatant cheating, which will inevitably taint Smith, Warner and Bancroft's careers until they hang up their studs.

What I am talking about is rooted deep in the side, not really talking about the fans who can also whinge with the best of them, all the comments re: England cheating to win the World Cup were laughably childish from the Aussie press.

http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1181098/the-ugly-australian--the-evolution-of-a-cricket-species

Written by an Aussie who grew up in this culture. Doesn't make for good reading.

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Mackenzie said:

https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?373282-Poor-Aussies

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wellquickwoody said:

We are also in UK late September. Going to Newcastle away, hoping to get tickets to Chelsea away somehow, and hoping for a Caraboa Cup game at the Amex. If you or G are at any of these then maybe get a drink sometime? Is G flying back on 30/09 by any chance?

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studio150 said:

I have no idea how these Aussie fans would have coped if they were around for the Holding, Roberts, Marshall, Garner.... era

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Mellotron said:

Yep, thought we might've had this conversation before - thanks for bringing that article forward in the first place, it's a great insight. The "bad people on both sides" argument just doesn't wash.

There has been a toxic element in the Aussie cricketing culture for a long time, that is completely unlike any other country's.

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mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:

I'm sure the opening post was fascinating but I saw the words 'snowflake' and 'banter' and just knew it wasn't one for me.

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Sussex Nomad said:

So you decided to not post

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Postman Pat said:

After all Cricket Australia weren't bigging up their bowling attacks "frightening bouncer barrage" against England, about 18 months ago

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