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[Travel] Call for London to be car-free by 2030 - "e-scooters for everyone"



Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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West west west Sussex
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-49192315

An equivalent of Uber should be run by Transport for London, Tube travel should be free and there should be "e-scooters for everyone" to cut carbon emissions, a think-tank said...

...To counteract this, the report says private cars should have "disappeared from Greater London" by 2030 with alternatives being accessible on a TfL app, including walking routes, buses free for Londoners, tram and Tubes, E-bikes, e-scooters, car shares and e-rickshaws.




Although judging by the reports linked to the article seemingly Brighton will be the only major city standing firm and insisting on killing all it's inhabitants with cars...


...which is nice.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-48269657

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-48035712

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-49017961

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-47224881
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
Standing at the bus stop by The Priory in Haywards Heath yesterday a chap went up towards the hospital on an electric scooter and I was surprised how fast he moved. He was in the road or otherwise could have caused a problem had he been on the pavement.
 


Perkino

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Dec 11, 2009
5,978
We have to travel into London to the Evelina children's hospital 4 times a year with my eldest son who is under their care and have to pay a congestion charge each and every time. There is no way we could get him there without the use of a car. Judging by the sort of patients that the hospital is always full of I cannot be alone in thinking making it car free would impossible
 




Madafwo

I'm probably being facetious.
Nov 11, 2013
1,591
Will the e-scooters be programmed to stop at red lights?

No, they'll be programmed to self destruct if they go through a red light. Or just electrocute the rider, we don't want to waste a perfectly good scooter.
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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Free this free that, does anyone really believe this is even remotely possible? Get rid of cars and the Government income will be absolutely hammered - road tax - VAT on car sales- income on fuel tax etc etc

Where will they claw this money back from whilst making everything transport related free?

Don’t much fancy a scooter in mid winter in the pissing rain either thanks

Absolute pie in the sky idea
 


LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
46,485
SHOREHAM BY SEA
Free this free that, does anyone really believe this is even remotely possible? Get rid of cars and the Government income will be absolutely hammered - road tax - VAT on car sales- income on fuel tax etc etc

Where will they claw this money back from whilst making everything transport related free?

Don’t much fancy a scooter in mid winter in the pissing rain either thanks

Absolute pie in the sky idea

What not even with a grand child strapped to your back and walking stick....oh and shopping ...ring ya bell with ya.........nose
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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What not even with a grand child strapped to your back and walking stick....oh and shopping ...ring ya bell with ya.........nose

Electric too so pedestrians glued to their mobiles and with headphones on being knocked down every few yards as they step out in front of you, as most won’t be able to hear you coming :thumbsup:
 




Stat Brother

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Free this free that, does anyone really believe this is even remotely possible? Get rid of cars and the Government income will be absolutely hammered - road tax - VAT on car sales- income on fuel tax etc etc

Where will they claw this money back from whilst making everything transport related free?

Don’t much fancy a scooter in mid winter in the pissing rain either thanks

Absolute pie in the sky idea

Of course it is, but if you think I'm going to let:-

"e-scooters for all"

slide by with barely murmur you've learned nothing over all these years. :lol:
 


studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
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On the Border
Standing at the bus stop by The Priory in Haywards Heath yesterday a chap went up towards the hospital on an electric scooter and I was surprised how fast he moved. He was in the road or otherwise could have caused a problem had he been on the pavement.

He was of course breaking the current laws as e-scooters are only legally permitted to be used on private land
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
He was of course breaking the current laws as e-scooters are only legally permitted to be used on private land

I thought that but until Boris brings in the extra 20000 proper police not PCSO there is nobody to monitor it. In actual fact he was moving faster than the cars on that road.
 




BrickTamland

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Mar 2, 2010
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Brighton
We’ve got escooters here in Sweden, both in Stockholm and some smaller cities. Whilst they are fun and convenient (although not that cheap) for the odd ride here or there, they are a nightmare. They get left absolutely everywhere (in the middle of roads, bike lanes, shop entrances, you name it. Nobody wears a helmet and especially in the evening when people have had a few they are pretty dangerous. Locals here have started throwing them in the water as protest. They have potential but a lot more needs to be done yet.
 


Nitram

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Jul 16, 2013
2,178
We’ve got escooters here in Sweden, both in Stockholm and some smaller cities. Whilst they are fun and convenient (although not that cheap) for the odd ride here or there, they are a nightmare. They get left absolutely everywhere (in the middle of roads, bike lanes, shop entrances, you name it. Nobody wears a helmet and especially in the evening when people have had a few they are pretty dangerous. Locals here have started throwing them in the water as protest. They have potential but a lot more needs to be done yet.
Sounds promising. Next step same for cyclists, then pedestrians may be able to walk safely.
 






NooBHA

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Jan 13, 2015
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Free this free that, does anyone really believe this is even remotely possible? Get rid of cars and the Government income will be absolutely hammered - road tax - VAT on car sales- income on fuel tax etc etc

Where will they claw this money back from whilst making everything transport related free?

Don’t much fancy a scooter in mid winter in the pissing rain either thanks

Absolute pie in the sky idea

Of course it is - It is absolutely impossible to be free of vehicles in any town or city - Who would deliver, food clothing, furniture, beer and other saleable items to the retail outlets. Unless they are gonna arrive out of the sky like ET
 






Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
We’ve got escooters here in Sweden, both in Stockholm and some smaller cities. Whilst they are fun and convenient (although not that cheap) for the odd ride here or there, they are a nightmare. They get left absolutely everywhere (in the middle of roads, bike lanes, shop entrances, you name it. Nobody wears a helmet and especially in the evening when people have had a few they are pretty dangerous. Locals here have started throwing them in the water as protest. They have potential but a lot more needs to be done yet.

Yeah, another downside to it is that people need to look so mean and dangerous. "I am a 45 year old riding an e-scooter so I got to do this evil 'Im gonna kill everyone' facial expression. That shit is terrifying. Cant walk far in Gothenburg without bumping in to these Jeffrey Dahmer-yuppies.
 



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