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drew

drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,042
Burgess Hill
No doubt this will get eaten up by the boris or brexit threads but with Johnsons working majority down to one, is this the time for senior remain Tory MPs who might not stand at the next election to withdraw from the party whip to bring down the government as I doubt anyone has any faith that corbyn will call for a vote of no confidence as he really wants out of Europe anyway?
 




Simster

Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,165
Surrey
Interesting times. I'm not sure remain Tories resigning from the whip is going to bring down the government because Labour won't call a vote of no confidence as they cannot win a general election from this position. It might only happen when it becomes crystal clear that Johnson is prepared to drive us off the no-deal Brexit cliff.
 


pasty

pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
30,258
West, West, West Sussex
Bit odd that the tories put Chris Davies up again after the fact that he was unseated caused the by election in the first place. Did they really think he was going to win after a petition to deselect him?
 
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Postman Pat

Well-known member
Jul 24, 2007
6,971
Coldean
A bit dumb of the Brexit party to put up a candidate and cost the Conservatives the seat, once the Greens and Plaid stepped aside for Dems, there was always a risk splitting the vote would mean a win for a 'remainer'.

A bit vain of Farage to maybe think he could win what was a remain ward?
 




Stat Brother

Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,636
West west west Sussex
pasty said:
Bit odd that the tories put Chris Davies up again after that fact that he was unseated caused the by election in the first place. Did they really think he was going to win after a petition to deselect him?
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Tory 'safe seat'. :lol:

They might not have bargained for The Greens & Plaid Cymru not standing and getting behind the LibDems.
 


Albumen

Albumen

Don't wait for me!
Jan 19, 2010
11,495
Brighton - In your face
Postman Pat said:
A bit dumb of the Brexit party to put up a candidate and cost the Conservatives the seat, once the Greens and Plaid stepped aside for Dems, there was always a risk splitting the vote would mean a win for a 'remainer'.

A bit vain of Farage to maybe think he could win what was a remain ward?
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Like they'd do anything to the contrary.
 


Mackenzie

Mackenzie

Old Brightonian
Nov 7, 2003
33,532
East Wales
This is my constituency. Chris Davies really short himself in the foot with his expense fiddling, he was really well liked by the farming community and had a relatively safe seat. I know his daughter has had a tough time of it at school since he was convicted, kids can be really cruel. He was stupid. As for Jane Dodds, we’ve been bombarded with letters from her, twice weekly visits from her canvassers, phone calls etc. It’s actually been a bit weird (and annoying) but she’s got her name out there and won. The Labour Party candidate was invisible, but it was only ever a two horse race.
 




pasty

pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
30,258
West, West, West Sussex
Simster said:
Interesting times. I'm not sure remain Tories resigning from the whip is going to bring down the government because Labour won't call a vote of no confidence as they cannot win a general election from this position. It might only happen when it becomes crystal clear that Johnson is prepared to drive us off the no-deal Brexit cliff.
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Never has there been a clearer indication of the disarray the Labour party are in right now. The government has a majority of just 1, is heading inexorably towards something that 48% of the entire country (probably more) do not want, and is lead by a complete buffoon, yet still, they do not even believe themselves that they could win a general election.

The tories have never had it so easy.
 


jonny.rainbow

jonny.rainbow

Well-known member
Oct 29, 2005
6,603
pasty said:
Never has there been a clearer indication of the disarray the Labour party are in right now. The government has a majority of just 1, is heading inexorably towards something that 48% of the entire country (probably more) do not want, and is lead by a complete buffoon, yet still, they do not even believe themselves that they could win a general election.

The tories have never had it so easy.
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Labour’s problem is the party membership is still a pretty much 50/50 leave/remain split.
 






CheeseRolls

CheeseRolls

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 27, 2009
5,938
Shoreham Beach
Mackenzie said:
This is my constituency. Chris Davies really short himself in the foot with his expense fiddling, he was really well liked by the farming community and had a relatively safe seat. I know his daughter has had a tough time of it at school since he was convicted, kids can be really cruel. He was stupid. As for Jane Dodds, we’ve been bombarded with letters from her, twice weekly visits from her canvassers, phone calls etc. It’s actually been a bit weird (and annoying) but she’s got her name out there and won. The Labour Party candidate was invisible, but it was only ever a two horse race.
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I think thief is the word you are struggling for and in these circumstances it is understandable, why leavers voted Brexit.

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Eeyore

Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
23,513
jonny.rainbow said:
Labour’s problem is the party membership is still a pretty much 50/50 leave/remain split.
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The party membership was 88% remain in the last survey.

The wider Labour electorate was about 65% at the referendum.
 


Bob!

Bob!

Coffee Buyer
Jul 5, 2003
11,111
Stat Brother said:
Tory 'safe seat'. :lol:

They might not have bargained for The Greens & Plaid Cymru not standing and getting behind the LibDems.
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Not really though, was it.

1985 by-election Richard Livsey Liberal
1992 Jonathan Evans Conservative
1997 Richard Livsey Liberal Democrats
2001 Roger Williams Liberal Democrats
2015 Christopher Davies Conservative
2019 by-election[a] Jane Dodds Liberal Democrats
 




Stat Brother

Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,636
West west west Sussex
pasty said:
Never has there been a clearer indication of the disarray the Labour party are in right now. The government has a majority of just 1, is heading inexorably towards something that 48% of the entire country (probably more) do not want, and is lead by a complete buffoon, yet still, they do not even believe themselves that they could win a general election.

The tories have never had it so easy.
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The history books aren't going to talk well of us, are they?
 


beorhthelm

beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,286
Postman Pat said:
A bit dumb of the Brexit party to put up a candidate and cost the Conservatives the seat, once the Greens and Plaid stepped aside for Dems, there was always a risk splitting the vote would mean a win for a 'remainer'.

A bit vain of Farage to maybe think he could win what was a remain ward?
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as said in Brexit thread, its a strategic failure on their behalf.
 








Stat Brother

Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,636
West west west Sussex
Bob! said:
Not really though, was it.

1985 by-election Richard Livsey Liberal
1992 Jonathan Evans Conservative
1997 Richard Livsey Liberal Democrats
2001 Roger Williams Liberal Democrats
2015 Christopher Davies Conservative
2019 by-election[a] Jane Dodds Liberal Democrats
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That's how it was described on 5-live, this morning.

TBH with all the shitwaffle that's gone under the bridge, I was still reeling from the 'majority of 1' part of the report.
That rather snuck up on me.
 




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