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[Albion] Charlton's Cat 2 academy has generated transfers of £50m in 4 years
- Thread starter Easy 10
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- Jun 27, 2012
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Of course it’s not offensive , it’s just why you want to use it as a stick to beat the club that you support is a bit odd.
PS: we have 2 first choice prem league players that our academy generated. We don’t have to sell them though.
Bold Seagull
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Probably worth a good £55m+ in today's market.
Its not 'offensive'. Its just a really STUPID pointless measure to use.
By that measure an average player who failed to settle and moved six times for £5m each time, 'generates' more than a great player sold for £25m. It's meaningless as an indicator of the academy's output.
Easy 10
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I haven't used it as a stick to beat the club with. I just have high hopes that at some point soon, we too will begin seeing some similar or comparable returns. The club is clearly gearing itself towards achieving this, but there'd certainly be no harm taking a leaf out of Charlton's book (if they haven't done so already), given what their academy has generated.
I'll be keeping an eye on the gametime of the loanee's we've sent out get in the Championship. If they turn out to be "Premier League ready" and come back to bolster our options then fantastic. If they're not quite at that level, then I'd hope they'll be good enough to generate some transfer fees for us. Those are the returns we need, proof that the enormous investment in the academy is bearing fruit.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
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- #47
Its not 'offensive'. Its just a really STUPID pointless measure to use.
By that measure an average player who failed to settle and moved six times for £5m each time, 'generates' more than a great player sold for £25m. It's meaningless as an indicator of the academy's output.
Agree to disagree then. If a player who originates from BHA's academy got sold for millions, or goes on and has a series of multi-million pound moves, I'd actually take some quiet satisfaction and pride from that. It would be a GOOD THING. A sign that we're getting it right.
- Jun 27, 2012
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Ha! I’d like to see your analysis of the youth and dev set up if you were really having a go !
sydney
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there is an obvious difference there mate , we all know that the best players are those with muscle twitch capability , there is only on e way to describe that without being branded a bigot or a racist and i just did .............having played football and basketball against fast muscle twitch lads throughout my late teens i can confirm that the fact they run faster , jump higher and are quicker off the mark is irrefutable ...so realistically charlton and palace and obviously the bigger london teams like spurs , gooners, brentford, orient , will always have better academy figures cos the black lads can run and jump faster and higher than the white lads .........if any of you had a history in sport then you would admit that it's beyond doubt..........
We're the Stripes
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Pretty much where I stand on this. Read the Guardian piece earlier in the day and found it really interesting - was hoping this thread would focus on praising Charlton rather than instantly descending into the (often tiresome) debate on how well or not it reflects on the current success of our own academy, with people feeling they have to take usual polar opposite sides.
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Brain dead MUG SHEEP
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If that really was the case, then there'd be no white players playing at the top level, the World Champions would always come from Africa, and Usain Bolt would've got that contract he wanted at Man Utd. Your analysis focuses purely on a (black) players physical attributes, and completely disregards one fairly crucial factor - skill.
So sorry, not having it.
sydney
tinky ****in winky
so you're obviously not an ex player then ....bearing in mind that up until 50 years ago there were only 10 or 15 black lads in the league and we were a racist bunch of pricks , why the sudden influx of black lads ..... do you want to get started on Latino flair and sol campbell's jinx .......anyone whose ever had a ruck with a black lad knows the score , ...........i give you klitschko as an absolute exception....steve cram , steve ovett , allan minter.... your go ...
Bold Seagull
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You might do if you were in a Sam Tyler like scenario and got transported back to the 1970s.
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Brain dead MUG SHEEP
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so you're obviously not an ex player then ....bearing in mind that up until 50 years ago there were only 10 or 15 black lads in the league and we were a racist bunch of pricks , why the sudden influx of black lads ..... do you want to get started on Latino flair and sol campbell's jinx .......anyone whose ever had a ruck with a black lad knows the score , ...........i give you klitschko as an absolute exception....steve cram , steve ovett , allan minter.... your go ...
I'm not a former academy player, no. But your assertion that only black footballers can make it through the academy systems because they're all stronger and more athletic is patently bobbins. How else do white players get through then ?
This is an odd tangent you're spinning off on, and one that doesn't make any sense. Maybe YOU weren't up to it physically when you played against black players, but thats quite obviously not the case across the board. Nonsense argument.
Da Man Clay
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- Dec 16, 2004
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so you're obviously not an ex player then ....bearing in mind that up until 50 years ago there were only 10 or 15 black lads in the league and we were a racist bunch of pricks , why the sudden influx of black lads ..... do you want to get started on Latino flair and sol campbell's jinx .......anyone whose ever had a ruck with a black lad knows the score , ...........i give you klitschko as an absolute exception....steve cram , steve ovett , allan minter.... your go ...
You’re a bit of an odd chap really.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
so you're obviously not an ex player then ....bearing in mind that up until 50 years ago there were only 10 or 15 black lads in the league and we were a racist bunch of pricks , why the sudden influx of black lads ..... do you want to get started on Latino flair and sol campbell's jinx .......anyone whose ever had a ruck with a black lad knows the score , ...........i give you klitschko as an absolute exception....steve cram , steve ovett , allan minter.... your go ...
Genealogy, environment, culture all undoubtedly have a part to play in why athletes emerge from particular nations, or racial backgrounds, but to distill it down as you are to a case of black lads can all run faster, jump higher and and are stronger is patently nonsense and without scientific background. A case in point is why black West Africans dominate sprinting and yet from the same continent East Africans dominate long distance running - completely different physical attributes. This kind of population distinction goes beyond your, dare I say it, simplistic conclusions on race alone.
The is absolutely no scientific basis for saying you have fast-twitch muscle fibre because you're black, it's incorrect. What we are talking is a gene, or a network of genes, or a network of genes and environmental factors. Being black only makes you more likely to have a genetic variant that makes you more likely to have extra fast-twitch fiber. It goes far beyond the crudeness of putting this down to race.
Whitechapel
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Whitechapel
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I think the crux of my point is that your post that was clearly stupid a year ago is even funnier with hindsight.