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[Football] Poor old Bury







maltaseagull

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Feb 25, 2009
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Zabbar- Malta
Would it save that much money though to make a difference?

The players wages are the issue and clubs forced to pay more than they can afford in order to compete with those that seem to get away with it.
It wasn't that long ago that the 2 lower leagues were looking at part time as an option.
Now they are paying individuals thousands per week each.
 






Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,360
Uffern
Worryingly silent in Bolton sounds like the title of a northern indie band's tricky second album
 




Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
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When Bury & Bolton go, it’ll open the floodgates. Accrington chairman reckons there are 8 clubs in dire straits.

That doesn't surprise me. Sounds a bit like the retail world where big names have fallen – and continue to fall – by the wayside.

A few more go and League 2 disappears. A few years after that maybe there's a possibility of a Premier League 1, 2 and 3? Or re-brand League 1 as something else, so Premier League, Championship and ?????
 


Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
Nice swerve. So when we're relegated, and it will happen at some point, you're happy for us to go under because we'll be spending more than we bring in ?
That's how capitalism works these days.
 


worthingseagull123

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May 5, 2012
2,591
Given a lot of lower league clubs are in a financial crisis is it not now time to perhaps reduce from 92 teams within our leagues to a smaller number. Do any other leagues in the world have 92 teams through out their divisions (can’t be bothered to research this if I’m honestly).This is only a question not my view.


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What a stupid thing to say.

Wasn’t too long ago we were 4th tier. You would have cried like a bitch if we were expected to drop out.
 




Juan Albion

Chicken Sniffer 3rd Class
What a mess.

If both Bury and Bolton survive, will Bury have an advantage over Bolton seeing as how they haven't had to play any games with a team full of youth players? Will teams that have already run up the goal difference against Bolton Youth have an advantage over those who play a reinforced Bolton team later in the season?
 




Sorrel

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Jul 5, 2003
2,759
Back in East Sussex
The problem is that there's been months for "interested" parties to show they can do more than just be interested. The truth is that nothing has happened for either club. Every extension is just postponing things, not solving anything - and it's obvious that without playing matches the clubs can't go on.

I think the odds are firmly that one or both clubs goes out business. That's not officially happened since Maidstone in 92 (though I would also count what happened to Wimbledon as the same thing - in a different way - but the result was no different).
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
The problem is that there's been months for "interested" parties to show they can do more than just be interested. The truth is that nothing has happened for either club. Every extension is just postponing things, not solving anything - and it's obvious that without playing matches the clubs can't go on.

I think the odds are firmly that one or both clubs goes out business. That's not officially happened since Maidstone in 92 (though I would also count what happened to Wimbledon as the same thing - in a different way - but the result was no different).
Happened to be in Maidstone on a recent Saturday - a fair number of Maidstone shirts around town before their game.

There is a future for any AFC Bury, or AFC Bolton if it comes to it.
 


Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,739
LOONEY BIN
What a mess.

If both Bury and Bolton survive, will Bury have an advantage over Bolton seeing as how they haven't had to play any games with a team full of youth players? Will teams that have already run up the goal difference against Bolton Youth have an advantage over those who play a reinforced Bolton team later in the season?

It's unfair on the other teams if Bolton start playing team with something of a full team after gifting points to others playing their youth team
 


Sorrel

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Jul 5, 2003
2,759
Back in East Sussex
Happened to be in Maidstone on a recent Saturday - a fair number of Maidstone shirts around town before their game.

There is a future for any AFC Bury, or AFC Bolton if it comes to it.
Yep - that's kind of my opinion too. The clubs can go on - if the fans want them to. The problem is the ground, because it will take either of them a long time to get a decent ground again if that goes as part of the winding up (which, surely, it would).
 








dangull

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Feb 24, 2013
5,116
Glasgow Rangers were liquidated a few years ago, but their fans and most of the media still seem to refer to the new club being the same club.
 


Sorrel

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Jul 5, 2003
2,759
Back in East Sussex
Glasgow Rangers were liquidated a few years ago, but their fans and most of the media still seem to refer to the new club being the same club.
The company was liquidated, but sold the ground and facilities to a new company that continued to play on the same ground. I guess it's conceivable that this could happen to Lancashire clubs, but in that case they would certainly lose their League status.
 




One Teddy Maybank

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Aug 4, 2006
21,714
Worthing
Anyone else think it's time to bring back North and South divisions?

Reduce the travelling costs if nothing else.

Could still have play-off's
 




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