[Politics] Johnson or Hunt?

Mellotron · Jul 23, 2019

Bozza said:
Jesus - 92,153 people have a lot to answer for.

How could anyone vote for Boris Johnson to lead our country?

How could anyone vote for any Tories at the moment?! Absolute shower of shit.

Blackadder · Jul 23, 2019

Boris and Donald. The Dream Team.

Kinky Gerbil · Jul 23, 2019

Simster said:
Let the utter shitshow commence. I'm past caring. He is going to be fcking useless.

The only positive is when it goes wrong that will be the end of Brexit

Fignon's Ponytail · Jul 23, 2019

Herr Tubthumper · Jul 23, 2019

Simster said:
Let the utter shitshow commence. I'm past caring. He is going to be fcking useless.

I’m going to sit back and enjoy watching the EU run rings around his arrogant asshole.

Simster · Jul 23, 2019

BLOCK F said:
Birthday or not, Simster, I have to say that there is little or no point in getting into prolonged discussions about the merits or otherwise of a Corbyn government.
There is plenty of comment and opinion about this from politicos who are far more engaged in the process than I am , in print and online, and I have to say, that except for the far left supporting organisations, the general consensus appears to suggest that it wouldn't be a good thing for the country. You and I will never agree, whatever I say.
Perhaps the most telling point I can make, is that despite the awful Conservatives that you so thoroughly despise being in power and apparently cocking everything up, your wonderful far left socialists are still behind in the polls!
Seems like I am not alone in my views.
P.S. I am not trotting off, but going out for lunch with my fellow vile non believers in far left socialism, namely my wife , number one son and daughter, plus grandson.Blimey, how the privileged few live!
Finally, Why do you frequently get so venomous on NSC? It makes one suspect that you have anger management issues and operate on a very short fuse.

You have time to write 3 paragraphs but nothing that bothers to explain why Corbyn would be any worse than the current dreadful government. It's all "I'm not alone, we won't eve agree etc etc". You have proven my point.

I am not venemous, just utterly dispairing. I haven't called you names. Besides, there are plenty of people worse than that on here - look at pastafarian on the Brexit thread.

Mellotron · Jul 23, 2019

Herr Tubthumper said:
I’m going to sit back and enjoy watching the EU run rings around his arrogant asshole.

The thought of him having to negotiate....well, anything.

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if I learnt he wore velcro trainers.

LadySeagull · Jul 23, 2019

Kinky Gerbils said:
The only positive is when it goes wrong that will be the end of Brexit

Remainers clutching at straws. Get used to it and get behind the country.

Kinky Gerbil · Jul 23, 2019

LadySeagull said:
Remainers clutching at straws. Get used to it and get behind the country.

I am getting behind the country, by not wanting it to be trashed.

nicko31 · Jul 23, 2019

LadySeagull said:
Remainers clutching at straws. Get used to it and get behind the country.

Getting behind the country and getting behind a crypto fascist are two different things....

Mellotron · Jul 23, 2019

LadySeagull said:
Remainers clutching at straws. Get used to it and get behind the country.

In all seriousness, and in the spirit of genuine, friendly debate - how do you see Brexit happening? Which version has enough support?

I'm not trying to set a trap or anything like that. I genuinely want to know how you see Brexit as feasible from here, because I can't see it.

The only option I can see possibly working is Boris re-badging May's deal and fooling people into thinking it's a better deal.

Also - I am fully behind our country. I don't want to see it ruined by people who are acting in their own interests, not the country's.

Easy 10 · Jul 23, 2019

He doesn't have a plan.
He doesn't have any values, policies or principals. Its all done on the hoof to suit the moment.
He'll blurt whatever comes into his head, regardless whether its (a) true of (b) completely contradictory to a previous statement.
He believes that being "blindly optimistic" and glossing over serious deficiencies with some affable posh bluster will win people over. Well, thats worked with 92,000 chinless wonders who have voted for him, but it patently will NOT work when he has to be in a room full of grown up politicians.

Worrying, depressing, embarrassing, all at the same time.

Farehamseagull · Jul 23, 2019

So depressing. How did it come to this?

Mellor 3 Ward 4 · Jul 23, 2019

Mellotron said:
The only option I can see possibly working is Boris re-badging May's deal and fooling people into thinking it's a better deal.

Which is what I think will happen.

wehatepalace · Jul 23, 2019

Bojo and Trump, the western world dream team !

Swansman · Jul 23, 2019

Its weird that a nation of almost 70 million people cant find one decent Prime Minister in ~50 years.

thejackal · Jul 23, 2019

LadySeagull said:
Remainers clutching at straws. Get used to it and get behind the country.

I struggle to believe that there are more leavers than remainers in the country now.

I don't know of anyone that supported remain who now wants to leave, but you hear the reverse all the time.

wellquickwoody · Jul 23, 2019

Mellotron said:
How could anyone vote for any Tories at the moment?! Absolute shower of shit.

Herr Tubthumper said:
I’m going to sit back and enjoy watching the EU run rings around his arrogant asshole.

Simster said:
You have time to write 3 paragraphs but nothing that bothers to explain why Corbyn would be any worse than the current dreadful government. It's all "I'm not alone, we won't eve agree etc etc". You have proven my point.

I am not venemous, just utterly dispairing. I haven't called you names. Besides, there are plenty of people worse than that on here - look at pastafarian on the Brexit thread.

nicko31 said:
Getting behind the country and getting behind a crypto fascist are two different things....

Mellotron said:
In all seriousness, and in the spirit of genuine, friendly debate - how do you see Brexit happening? Which version has enough support?

I'm not trying to set a trap or anything like that. I genuinely want to know how you see Brexit as feasible from here, because I can't see it.

The only option I can see possibly working is Boris re-badging May's deal and fooling people into thinking it's a better deal.

Also - I am fully behind our country. I don't want to see it ruined by people who are acting in their own interests, not the country's.

Easy 10 said:
He doesn't have a plan.
He doesn't have any values, policies or principals. Its all done on the hoof to suit the moment.
He'll blurt whatever comes into his head, regardless whether its (a) true of (b) completely contradictory to a previous statement.
He believes that being "blindly optimistic" and glossing over serious deficiencies with some affable posh bluster will win people over. Well, thats worked with 92,000 chinless wonders who have voted for him, but it patently will NOT work when he has to be in a room full of grown up politicians.

Worrying, depressing, embarrassing, all at the same time.

In a non footballing sense, bedwetters.

thejackal · Jul 23, 2019

Simster said:
I'm not disputing that Brown overspent, but it was to nothing like the disastrous extent that the right wing press would have had you believe. It's not like we were struggling to pay public sector workers like in the days of Derek Hatton's Liverpool. Government spending as a percentage of GDP reached a height of 45% in 2010 when Labour were booted out, but for context it is hovering around 41% now and was a good deal less than that under most of Labour's stewardship:

Now consider this. Under the Conservatives, that government spending has barely changed, yet I am now expected to find £60,000 to put my three kids through university. Where has that money gone then? We have knife crime issues. Where are all the police? We have more people using food banks than ever - even working people - and more people living on the streets, you can see it with your own eyes. It was never that bad under Labour. Ever.

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/5509/economics/government-spending-under-labour/

And all that doesn't even consider the distructivenesss of Brexit that is entirely the fault of the conservatives being bullied by the loons in the ERG and the blue-rinse brigade which has divided the nation, and threatens the existence of the union - all because it is nothing but a game to selfish posh etonian clowns who are running that party now.

So when people like BLOCK F insist socialism would be a disaster and trot off without the bothering with trifling matters like explaining themselves - over and over again - it makes me dispair. When did we get to the point that it was OK to put blind faith in the priveleged because, er, "well look at the opposition!!"? It's shameful.

Mostly all of this.

Bozza · Jul 23, 2019

Mellotron said:
How could anyone vote for any Tories at the moment?! Absolute shower of shit.

No one has been asked to vote Tory (in a meaningful election) for a while, but every suggestion is they'd still beat the Corbyn shitshow.

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