Nixonator
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Isaac Hayden and Maupay? Are you serious?
Our first 11 and squad will be weaker than in previous seasons.
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[Albion] Knockaert joins Fulham on initial one-year loan
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Isaac Hayden and Maupay? Are you serious?
Our first 11 and squad will be weaker than in previous seasons.
kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
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Yes and now we are losing AK when our other actual wingers are out we may see that again, even though it was pretty much a disaster.
You asked how many of our players have it in them. Solly March does.
kevo
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Knocky and Bruno had a real chemistry thing going on there. On its day, that overlapping combo down the right was an absolute joy to watch
Agreed.
So I'll just take this point because you'll keep on multi-quoting till a week on Tuesday. When we were origianlly rumoured to be interested in Jahanbakhsh we were the only English side linked and he wasn't interested in playing in The Championship.
A loan back to Holland might be more likely but even so he's a record signing with a 5 year contract. As much as I don't rate him he has to be given a chance under Potter. Nothing else makes sense. We'll know by Christmas whether he's really any good or not.
Knocky and Bruno had a real chemistry thing going on there. On its day, that overlapping combo down the right was an absolute joy to watch
That it was, as it was with Calde and Buckley before them and will be again with x & y.
LamieRobertson
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Only another three weeks and it all kicks off
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We need to keep in mind two things. We survived last season by the skin of our teeth. Our rivals are strengthening.
We cannot afford to go into the season with a weaker squad than we finished the last.
You could argue Trossard for Knocky is about a fair swap. Maybe it is, but we now have a massive liability on Trossard not getting up to speed quickly, or (not being as good as we hoped) and/or dips in form or injuries for Solly. Selling Knocky seems to me like we're banking on Ali J hitting the ground running this season. What a colossal gamble
Sorry what? Whose wages have been topped up?
Yes.
No, that's not how it works. A new contract is just that. It's all up for negotiation, and previous contracts guarantee nothing. Sure, a player with a highest earner clause in their existing contract is in a good bargaining position when it comes to the new contract, but not more than that.
I'd imagine the club not giving one in the first place.
If Dunk wasn't on a highest earner clause, then it wouldn't make sense to give him that just in return for 1 more year on his contract. That would be terrible negotiating. If he was already on a highest earner clause, then this wouldn't happen...
Only if he never had the highest earner clause.
No, not quite. There's a couple of points: 1) a defender might be your best player, but defenders do not get paid as much as forwards on average. So the best defender in a bottom half club wouldn't necessarily get paid more than a decent striker in the bottom half. 2) Although you might not have an excellent forward in your team, that doesn't mean you won't want to bring one in at some point, and when you do, they'll be expensive. You won't want to have to increase payments for other members of the squad to match.
I think Maguire earns about £45k a week, and there's been talk of Leicester offering him £75k to stay. Meanwhile Vardy earns about £120,000. Although you say Maguire is better, you should realise that strikers get paid more.
The club weren't going to say 'look mate, his dad died so he ain't gonna go'
The simple fact is, he was really happy here and didn't want to go. The club wouldn't have believed it if he (or his agent) had said he's going if there's not a highest earner clause. And he was under contract anyway, so he couldn't go.So having just won promotion with us, and been offered a pay-rise, he was going to say 'no thanks, I'm off to a Championship squad'? He wasn't going anywhere.
LamieRobertson
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Personally I never saw that combo as good...and hey AK’s move has only just happened allow people a little bit of grieving time eh
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That was a terrific hit, and i'm a Solly fan, but it's hard to say he has it in him when he has only scored, I think, 2 goals like that in his career
Bloody hell in my day that would be 'wet lettuce' territory, I guess now anyone requiring grieving time is a snowflake.
I'm sure Solly has some kind of 'final third' mental block.
If Potty can unlock that he'll be amazing.
If he can't, with all his qualifications in 'talking to people and stuff' Solly will never be as good as his potential.
LamieRobertson
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Lol...you know exactly what I mean...we all ..well most of us become attached to a player ..never take the emotion out of the game
Whitechapel
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Fulham to score 90+ league goals is 14/1 on Skybet. 100+ goals is 150/1.
LUMP.
LUMP.
FFS, first you complain that I haven't quoted your entire post in one of my replies, so then after I reply to all your points in your next post you complain I'm quoting too much
And also after complaining that I selected just part of your post, you're doing the same thing.
It doesn't matter that he wasn't interest in playing in the Championship. If our manager thinks he's not good enough for our team yet, he should go out on loan. Maybe the manager thinks he's as good or Knocky, or might be as good, so worth giving more time. But if the manager thinks he's not as good as Knocky, then I don't think keeping him and letting AK go is a good idea.
DavePage
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Sad to see a star go, as it always is.
He has served the club well but so have the club served him well along with the tremendous support from his teammates through his troubled times.
The bond that was formed at the time of his father dying made we feel at the time, he would only ever leave by retiring from football.
His temperament has of late been frustrating to watch, but isn't that the temperament of any genius?
The apparent greed that he shows with holding on to the ball or not passing to someone in a better position is only because of his inner belief that he will score that Palace goal with every attempt he makes.
That inner belief will come to fruition once again against lower opposition, each time it does we will point the finger and say that should have been with us.
The Premier League is a completely different ball game, with no one outside the top six guaranteed a future in that division. You could say looking at Chelsea and Manchester United last year at times, maybe they were not guaranteed either are it not for the lack of ability of the teams below them.
It's a hard division to play in, it's hard to see a star leave, but the team must come first. This year the Palace goal would not happen, VAR would have him off in the first couple of minutes. We as a team cannot afford to play games without the full compliment. (we struggled last year with the full team).
Unfortunately AK is not the only player with that borderline, potential sending off tackle that they don't seem to be able to control (all or nothing I guess).
So good luck Anthony, go tear the Championship a new AH, enjoy your football again, but always remember you are part of our family.
He has served the club well but so have the club served him well along with the tremendous support from his teammates through his troubled times.
The bond that was formed at the time of his father dying made we feel at the time, he would only ever leave by retiring from football.
His temperament has of late been frustrating to watch, but isn't that the temperament of any genius?
The apparent greed that he shows with holding on to the ball or not passing to someone in a better position is only because of his inner belief that he will score that Palace goal with every attempt he makes.
That inner belief will come to fruition once again against lower opposition, each time it does we will point the finger and say that should have been with us.
The Premier League is a completely different ball game, with no one outside the top six guaranteed a future in that division. You could say looking at Chelsea and Manchester United last year at times, maybe they were not guaranteed either are it not for the lack of ability of the teams below them.
It's a hard division to play in, it's hard to see a star leave, but the team must come first. This year the Palace goal would not happen, VAR would have him off in the first couple of minutes. We as a team cannot afford to play games without the full compliment. (we struggled last year with the full team).
Unfortunately AK is not the only player with that borderline, potential sending off tackle that they don't seem to be able to control (all or nothing I guess).
So good luck Anthony, go tear the Championship a new AH, enjoy your football again, but always remember you are part of our family.
BensGrandad
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No further news or confirmation if this transfer yet.
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What’s to stop Trossard being as abysmal as Alireza, as inconsistent as March, as injured as Izquierdo? Seems like a lot is resting on him hitting the ground running, meanwhile Alireza ‘deserves’ a season under Potter, yet Knockaert doesn’t? I’m thoroughly confused by our approach thus far, we’ve not strengthened any of our glaringly obvious weaknesses, though we have been treated to the annual Paul Barber sound bite about the costs of players, whilst letting an asset go for beer money. As it stands, is out first XI or match day squad actually any better than the one that fortuitously survived relegation?
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We beat Palace last season with 10 men.