LamieRobertson
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As an aside it was also rumoured that he shopped in Tescos...probably didn’t help either
Let thee be judged by rumours ..especially when the team was performing badly
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[Albion] Knockaert joins Fulham on initial one-year loan
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As an aside it was also rumoured that he shopped in Tescos...probably didn’t help either
Let thee be judged by rumours ..especially when the team was performing badly
The player budget consists of two elements, wages and transfer fee amortisation (transfer fee spread over the contract length). Give that Andone signed a five year contract a £15 m fee would increase his amortisation fee from £1m a year to £3m. We were £12m behind the next club in 2017/18 (Burnley) in 19th place. In 2018/19 Cardiff were promoted and I'm confident we were still above both them and Huddersfield, but Wolves and Fulham were big spenders so anticipate the Albion moving from 19th to 18th in the table.
For 2019/20 I suspect we will be above both Norwich and Sheffield United of the promoted clubs, but with Huddersfield and Cardiff being promoted that won't make a difference. Expect to see us narrow the gap or overtake Burnley though.
The wages and amortisation table does give a fairly good indicator of who will be close to the relegation spots. Of the bottom seven in 2017/18 four have been relegated (as well as Cardiff who would have been bottom in 2018/19) and we survived by a close margin in 2018/19.
Very well written and true in every sense but even your concise logic won’t take away the pain of parting with yet another Albion legend.
You’ve selectively missed out half my post to make it look like that’s what i meant. If you’d quoted the whole thing you’d see I said to judge the window at its end, that we’ve replaced AK with Trossard (unknown quantity right now) and that I hope moving off a top 10 earner frees up wages for a right back and striker.
If it’s that easy to find a club for Ali J perhaps you could suggest a couple
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Ninja Elephant
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It is a shame, but it's inevitable when somebody is about to leave. Personally, I'm not unhappy or necessarily surprised, but I'll never be anti-Knockaert. He is one of the main reasons we got promoted and one of the main reasons we stayed up. I don't think he's quite cut out for the Premier League but he's done brilliantly for us from start to finish and he'll always be a legend in my eyes.
There’s a difference being between overplaying his ‘brilliance’ and undervaluing what he brings to the squad.Whoooooosh.
I am talking about the same player
AK is nowhere near as good as the AK being discussed on this thread.
Oh and I didn't ghost over your comment.
You comment, like every other 'pro AK' comment is basically screaming 'he's not good enough, get rid'.
The fact that he was still better than all the others with those really really piss poor stats says more about the team last season than it does able AK's 'brilliance'.
Brighton are now left with 2 players yet unproven at this level, an injured winger until at least Christmas and Solly March. To say Knockaert is no where near good enough for that squad of players is one of the most ridiculous comments I’ve seen. And I’ve read #flaskgate.
Esp as the transfer window has slammed shut and the season starts in 4 and a half hours.
God this is hard work for what was a glib, sarcy aside.
I didn't say he wasn't good enough for this squad I was inferring he wasn't as good as the player being discussed.
I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear enough.
Sorrel
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Hopefully we'll be singing "You've got Knockaert" when we play today.
That's without having a 'highest earner' clause. A highest earner clause would mean either a) we don't sign anyone on more than that player, or b) that player gets an automatic pay rise. They wouldn't also get an extra year on their contract, and if they had a highest earner clause they wouldn't have to accept another year on their contract either. In your example, if Dunk chose to stay as he was and run down his existing contract, then he would be on less money than the new signing, so he clearly wouldn't have a highest earner clause, as he wouldn't be the highest earner.
Since we started our journey to the PL, fees and wages have risen, so it makes sense that we'd have been surprised. Not many players can expect to get a 'highest earner' clause though. To get that they need to be good enough that everyone thinks they'll be the best player we have for the next 5 years. That should never be the case for a defender outside the top few clubs (IMO). It shouldn't be the case for any Championship player if the destination is the PL, where we would obviously need to sign better players.
And we'd have simply said that we'll need to be signing even better players if we're to make a success of the PL. He wasn't getting offers from PL teams, he loved it here and needed stability after the loss of his father, so he wasn't in such a great bargaining position to be making such demands.
Who were we going to lose him to? PL teams weren't after him.
Johnny RoastBeef
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At the start of last season March was our best player for a number of games.
Much like AK's stats.
Being the best player, in that team, under those instructions, doesn't necessarily mean he was any good.
NorthStandSteward
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Could March ever produce a season even close to Knocky's in the championship!?!
March is the definition of bang average, if he were listed for sale the only clubs interested would be teams at the bottom of the Championship at best.
Johnny RoastBeef
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Much like AK's stats.
Being the best player, in that team, under those instructions, doesn't necessarily mean he was any good.
True, but he was the best player on the pitch when we beat Man United.
Nixonator
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Wellesley
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You're weird.
casbom
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This bit is the crucial bit for me, it's a safety net in case we do go back down then (if it is structured that way) we can have Knocky back for the Championship after we've sold off Ali J, Trossard and Izquierdo.
kemptown kid
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An integral part of our amazing journey over the past few years - deep personal ties to the club and fans and a genuine game changer on occasion (his wonder goal and celebrations at Palace THE highlight of last season). An Albion legend for all time, notwithstanding a few lapses. Merci et bonne chance Knocky.
I can only assume you steward facing the crowd
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NorthStandSteward
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Was a steward when I was at Sussex, been a seasson ticketer for the last four seasons.
Upper East, excellent view . . .
No, I haven't. I haven't tried to make it look like something different. You said "People losing their shit way too much on this thread." You said "The transfer window is always a sum of its parts." You said lots of other things too. I wasn't wanting to comment on those things you said.
What I did want to comment on was your point that you would rather have AK than Ali J or Locadia. Regardless of the other things you've said in your life, I should be able to comment on that alone. If you think we're better off (from a playing perspective) with AK than Ali J or Locadia (and I agree), then (unless AK really wanted out, which seems extremely unlikely) the only reason it would make sense to let him go was if it made a big difference financially. The figures we're hearing are not going to make a big difference financially. We could have easily loaned Locadia or Ali J out instead, with the idea that if they proved themselves in the Championship they'd then get a chance in the PL, if that's what Potter had wanted.
If that was the case, he could just say no to the loan and get a pay rise when we sign someone else. Or, if he doesn't want to do that, he could agree to remove the clause. Before anyone asks 'why would he remove the clause?', first answer 'why would he agree to go on loan which effectively does the same thing?'.
And that's a fair opinion, which would mean he's going because we think we'll do better with the likes of Locadia and AJ (or they might go too etc). What I was disagreeing with was the idea that the club decide AK is better, but get rid of him anyway. That, IMO, would be a shit way to run the club.
But I don't disagree with that comment. I don't need to highlight all of your comments that I agree with and reply 'agree'. I will judge it all at the end, and maybe then it will make more sense to us. What I disagree with is the idea that we get rid of the better player and keep the worse players, unless there's really good financial reason (which it seems there isn't).
If Potter decided he wasn't good enough yet, then I suggest we'd tell him he didn't do as well in his first season as we'd all hoped, and he's not going to be in the squad of 25 for the first half of the season, and that it would be a good idea for him to go on loan to a Championship side with the hope he rejoins us at the winter break. Plenty of Championship clubs would be interested.