Medwayseagull
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[News] Profiteering from Pride?
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If you start the group and you are the only one that joins, then it becomes the most unliked in the world I think you can take it as personal.
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
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I actually don't think white Caucasian males are privileged.I don't think many do. If by privileged you mean white males haven't regularly been branded criminals and gaoled for being straight, haven't been sacked simply because they are straight, haven't been beaten up and murdered simply because they are straight,haven't been executed by various states because they are straight, haven't been thrown out of bars, clubs, restaurants simply because they held their partmers hands, haven't had mortgages and loans and insurance refused because they are straight, haven't been allowed to visit dying partners because they were straight, have not received partner pensions because they are straight, haven't lost their homes because their straight partner of 25 years died and as they were straight had no rights,and so many other things then yes you are privileged. If like me you think NOT having that happen isn't a privilege but just what a civilised society would expect and do you may start to realise why some groups to whom all this happens regularly may feel a little bit unsympathetic about your so called set upon "white male privileged club".
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
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of course not, and thats not my point. Nothing wrong with sponsorship and using that as publicity (God bless American Express) but it is wrong, to not pay sponsorship, not do anything to help, but then plaster your business with rainbow flags and say "proud to support pride"-and that is what I am trying(not very well) to get across
- Jul 10, 2003
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I agree completely that if you are going to benefit from Pride then you should contribute to it.
However, (maybe because of my age) I'm still enjoying the fact that companies and organisations all round Sussex feel that 'they have to be seen to be supporting Pride' as to do anything other than that would have a negative impact on them.
I'm old enough to remember when it wasn't always this way.
I took my 85 year old Mum out for dinner last night and she was asking when Pride was. She comes with us every year as 'It's so much better than that Lions Carnival thing they used to do'
But, from someone on your side, that isn’t happening now is it? But all of a sudden you seem to want to ride the white charger (that is an historical horse of do goodery) and claim the land that is victimhood.
Bored now.
- Jul 10, 2003
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nickbrighton
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and that is why we still need pride,a lot of people think everything is all ok now,when in reality it isnt. Yes its so much better in the South East of England than it was but teens are still being thrown out of home -in Brighton, Saudi Arabia, Iran and others executed tens of gay males THIS YEAR, homophobic attacks happen in Brighton all the time, youngsters are still bullied at school, "Thats so GAY" is still being used as an insult. there is still discrimination in the work place, and there are plenty of places in the UK where things still feel like they did 20 years ago.
Well no, probably not, but companies aren't people. People can be supportive, loving, caring, and give their time for free to help others etc. Companies are generally there just to make money. The board of a company might like to give something back to a cause that one of the owners feels strongly about, but generally I wouldn't expect the company to care, as a company isn't a human.
I'm not sure all these companies discriminated did they?
No that's probably about right. But whatever their motive, when a whole town is seen to be supporting something I think it helps spread the message that all of us are welcome and equal etc, and I feel like that's a good thing. I don't really care that the motive of a profit making company is more about making profits than anything else.
You don’t have to swear to be massively offensive.
Grow up. Of course being white isn’t bad. Don’t be so bloody stupid.
There are businesses who will stick anything on a product to try to make a quick profit, but that's the nature of business.
Surely the great thing about what is happening in terms of the mainstream use of the rainbow flag is that companies are no longer worried about the potential loss of business from bigoted bellends who boycott companies who do not share their enlightened view of the world, so it is a sign of acceptance and tolerance that should be applauded as overall the pluses outnumber the minuses.
JC Footy Genius
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- Jun 9, 2015
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As numerous others have said most companies will jump on any bandwagon or agenda if they believe it will have a net beneficial impact on their profit margin/brand. Not sure how God feels about appropriating one of his miraculous weather events as a gay pride symbol though 
So which part of ‘white, middle aged male’ were you being critical of?
Billy the Fish
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You have to decide what the rainbow flags mean.
Do they belong to pride? (which is now a commercial organisation)
Or are they just a symbol that belongs to everyone who wants to show support.
Businesses cash in on the St George's flag every time there's a World Cup or Euros. I think it's overly cynical to suggest that they're simply doing it for the money. I think it's the same with Pride, you have to take it at face value and accept the support even if it's only in a moral sense.
As numerous others have said most companies will jump on any bandwagon or agenda if they believe it will have a net beneficial impact on their profit margin/brand. Not sure how God feels about appropriating one of his miraculous weather events as a gay pride symbol though
Never mind God, what about Zippy and Bungle?
Drumstick
NORTHSTANDER
A local independent travel firm I know has been on Brighton’s parade for years now, was one of the first to ban Royal Brunei way before STA and co, support and advice travellers appropriately and has helped in local projects both within the LGBT world and outside of it.
Isn’t going on the March this year as they either can’t afford it or other national travel companies/airlines have paid for the slots.
For me that’s the sad thing here. Local Brighton companies who are involved have now been pushed out.
If there is one for the national companies surely it’s the London one?
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Isn’t going on the March this year as they either can’t afford it or other national travel companies/airlines have paid for the slots.
For me that’s the sad thing here. Local Brighton companies who are involved have now been pushed out.
If there is one for the national companies surely it’s the London one?
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portlock seagull
Why? Why us?
- Jul 28, 2003
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You need anger management classes. Don’t take out on me!
portlock seagull
Why? Why us?
- Jul 28, 2003
- 17,078
I think that’s the same for anything isn’t it?
portlock seagull
Why? Why us?
- Jul 28, 2003
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I know not one that’s exclusively so - could you enlighten me?
portlock seagull
Why? Why us?
- Jul 28, 2003
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Water off ducks back because your beef comes from many inc. me humiliating you on other threads because you so regularly talk utter gubbins and it’s our duty to put you right. Nice use of ‘retard’ mind, keep ‘em coming, keep embarrassing yourself, you’re winning the crowd over with such language. The Clot.