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    A decent review from someone born on a council estate,even as a soft Tory i don't agree with 'Right to Buy' as councils build and need these houses. These estates when i grew up had Police Houses,shops even the odd pub and a Church,everybody seemed to know each other,doubt its the same now ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/iZK...ouncil_housing

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      My parents were the first occupants of a council house in Storrington. Being post war all the families were on a similar "boat". There was a terrific camaraderie among everyone. I fondly remember my childhood there. But sadly I went back two weeks ago and every single one was privately owned and according to a school friend nobody talks to each other now, sadly a sign of the times. Incidentally they were genuine "Jerry built houses". Built by prisoners of war and my Dad who was Home guard used to escort them to and from Barns farm camp.

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      I am from Council house stock, absolutely nothing like it today.
      You always had a couple of problem families but they were ok.
      Everyone knew each other, the houses and gardens were clean and looked after, no trouble, no drugs, very rarely saw the police. That was for about 20 years, I don't remember a single serious issue.
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      The downfall was the buying of the estates by private companies rather than have council owned and run houses. Were we live was owned by Downland Housing who sold out to Affinity Sutton who in turn have sold out to Clarion and as each sell out came so the standard and concern dropped to the low that it is now as Clarioin are awful to deal with and have no social conscience whatsoever.
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      The downfall was the buying of the estates by private companies rather than have council owned and run houses. Were we live was owned by Downland Housing who sold out to Affinity Sutton who in turn have sold out to Clarion and as each sell out came so the standard and concern dropped to the low that it is now as Clarioin are awful to deal with and have no social conscience whatsoever.
      I am sure that had something to do with it but something has changed over a generations whereas people are like caged animals and don't mind living in a zoo.
      Most places have a couple of really bad areas, unfortunately Plymouth has at least 7 and whilst there are many decent people living there, there are many real knuckle draggers on the estates down here.
      A lot of the estates have been demolished and redeveloped but they still choose to live and behave like pigs.
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      It appears that council tenants nowadays seem to have a 'badge and image'; that they have to live down to and is expected of them.
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      From my time in Sussex Police, residents in Council housing like Whitehawk, Moulsecoombe, were salt of the earth. In those days (1970's), we had time to talk to people, gain their trust (of course some scrotes slipped through the net !)
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      A decent review from someone born on a council estate,even as a soft Tory i don't agree with 'Right to Buy' as councils build and need these houses. These estates when i grew up had Police Houses,shops even the odd pub and a Church,everybody seemed to know each other,doubt its the same now ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/iZK...ouncil_housing
      Not disagreeing, but the “everybody seemed to know each other” phenomena has ended generally.

      As a kid in the 70’s/early 80’s in a non-council house, neighbours very rarely changed (which was not an entirely halcyon or salad days thing ... some miserable old gits really hated happy kids).

      In modern times families are far more transient, moving to work elsewhere in the UK or overseas, or to move up or down market.
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      From my time in Sussex Police, residents in Council housing like Whitehawk, Moulsecoombe, were salt of the earth. In those days (1970's), we had time to talk to people, gain their trust (of course some scrotes slipped through the net !)
      so where do they (and estates in general) get the reputations from?
      Daily Mail readers are living in a perpetual hell, expecting their homes to be overrun at any minute by hoodie wearing, skunk smoking, muslim, transgender, asylum seekers.
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      Loved growing up on an estate, we were toerags but still had morals, the old Bill treated you with respect and Visa versa, salt of the earth people, bits of trouble but self policed , i 3ven remember back in the late 80s a group of pikies invaded our playing field, all the Dads (some were even of traveller stock) ernt down there and removed them. Everyone knew each other , you could nick a pint of milk f4om the milk man but still help Margaret or mabel with their shopping, no malice in being a bit "dodgy"

      Unlike today,if you had a "run in" with someone and stabbed them you would a coward and scum and the estate would outcast you, if you gave it a fair go theyde back you all the way
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