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    Well, that might be an exaggeration but it's getting a bit like that.

    I've just been watching a fairly mediocre game between Argentina and Paraguay. Not a great game but that isn't what got to me. I just don't like the way the game is being messed about with.

    With Paraguay winning 1-0 five minutes after half-time, Aguerro pulls the ball back to Martinez and the Argie gets off a shot which hits the bar. The rebound comes to Messi, whose shot is well saved by the goalie, who pushes it round the post for a corner.

    I timed what happened next. We have 58 seconds of Messi lining up to take the corner and the ref sorting out the players pushing in the box as per usual at a corner. After the 58 seconds, the ref sticks his finger in his ear and indicates to Messi to wait on the corner. No-one seems to have a clue what is going on, certainly not the commentator or the crowd, who are whistling. But the ref is clearly talking to the VAR folks.

    Then, 2 minutes and 7 seconds after the shot, the ref indicates he's going to look at the VAR screen.

    A minute later, he comes back and signals penalty to the Argies and gives a yellow card to a defender for handball. Slow motion replays are highly inconclusive in my view. If the shot from Martinez did brush his arm it caused no spin on the ball as far as I could see,so must have been the tiniest of touches.

    Then, more than five minutes after the incident, Messi steps up and scores the penalty he never even appealed for.

    To add to my discontent, a few minutes later, a Paraguay forward was chopped down in the box and a penalty was given without need for VAR. Yet there was no yellow card to the offender. So you get a yellow card for a handball no-one saw and which certainly was in no way deliberate, but no card for a deliberate foul in the penalty area. Makes no sense to me.

    The Paraguay penalty is then well-saved by the Argie goalie, but I half expected VAR to announce a few minutes later that the goalie's heel was 2mm off the line when the ball was kicked - didn't happen.

    What has happened to football? It used to be common sense and it was clear to everyone what was going on. Not any more. This season is going to be horrible, thanks to VAR.
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      Totally agree, the Brazil v Venezuela game was also a VAR farce. Although maybe that’s what happens when you put VAR at the hands of idiot South American officials.
      However, all the signs here in the UK, is that the premier league won’t have the silly TV screen and that VAR ref is more conservatively used. I also like the rugby style VAR ref we will see. Var ref makes the decision after the check. It won’t be perfect, but it will be better than the Coppa America.
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      Yes top flight football is being messed around with waaaay too much. Go and watch your local non league.
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      Yes top flight football is being messed around with waaaay too much. Go and watch your local non league.
      I would if it was an option.
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      Average players costing millions and living a rockstar life style whilst the average fan can’t afford to go to every game puts me off big time.
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      Average players costing millions and living a rockstar life style whilst the average fan can’t afford to go to every game puts me off big time.
      That's a separate issue, though. Tough to swallow sometimes, for sure.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Justice View Post
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      Average players costing millions and living a rockstar life style whilst the average fan can’t afford to go to every game puts me off big time.
      I don't really understand why people get put off football by player wages. As long as they're putting the effort in on the pitch, why does it matter?

      VAR, on the other hand, is a threat to the game. There should be rules on it, such as the captain of each team is the only person allowed to ask for VAR, and they lose the option if they are wrong once or twice
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      Funnily enough I was recently thinking about football having a 'Glastonbury style' year/whole season off every once in a while. I honestly believe it'd be less missed than you'd think, passions rekindled and all that when it returned. Obviously it wouldn't work for many reasons, but...
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      i fail to understand why VAR has not had a time limit applied. perfect illustration, if theres something to review, ref should be notified and decide within a minute tops, 30sec perferably. and if in doubt err to no action. i thought the point was to cover things the ref missed at speed of the game, not hunt for minor unnoticed incidents that its not possible to see without technical aid. will ruin the game.

      cards are just inconsistent, same as it ever was.
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      We will all find out first-hand next season how VAR is going to affect the state of top flight football in this country.
      Whilst I think it's works well in many situations, I also feel it's taken a lot of the drama from the moment to moment goings on during a match. Every time a goal is scored will now be tinged with a sense of 'will it' 'wont it' be given as we wait for VAR decisions to be verified......
      It's' going to be interesting and I'm sure they'll be some pure moments of elation which are then overruled by officials. I'm not a fan of this but how else can it be done? They need to speed up the checking process that's for sure.

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