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    It would be the other way round. Gove under Stewart. I can't see that happening.
    would be possibly make more sense, a kind of Biden supporting Obama - but why would the frontrunner come out and float the idea? sign of weakness in my mind

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      would be possibly make more sense, a kind of Biden supporting Obama - but why would the frontrunner come out and float the idea? sign of weakness in my mind
      I would have thought Gove as running mate to Stewart would be more likely.

      As to why Stewart would come out ? Could be naivety, honesty or political astuteness (and motive and interpretation of those could be different !). Guess we will find out over the next couple of days.
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      Well the TM deal is still there and is the basis for Stewart's proposal, and I don't believe that there was ever any other significantly different, sensible deal we were going to get. Unless you know different, and if so what would the basis of that deal be ?
      Doesn't really matter what I think, this deal is not getting through Parliament. I don't view the "negotiation" of a deal by Barnier and May which does not command support of Parliament as in any way a triumph for anybody. More of a dismal failure.
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      Doesn't really matter what I think, this deal is not getting through Parliament. I don't view the "negotiation" of a deal by Barnier and May which does not command support of Parliament as in any way a triumph for anybody. More of a dismal failure.
      I really don't understand what else you thought the EU would be able to give us, whilst maintaining their basic principles
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      Is that the right article ?

      Because I get 'Boris Johnson not ruling out parliament suspension to force no-deal Brexit ' We were talking about Stewart, or have i got my lines crossed
      Crossed most definitely

      I was talking about Boris the Buffoon
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      I would have thought Gove as running mate to Stewart would be more likely.

      As to why Stewart would come out ? Could be naivety, honesty or political astuteness (and motive and interpretation of those could be different !). Guess we will find out over the next couple of days.
      I suspect today or tomorrow Stewart will go. A shame and a dark day for politics in this country.

      I've seen loads of his lectures and read his work. We would never have had a PM so grounded and with such an experienced worldview.

      One of my favourite quotes from the 'The places in between':

      'I felt it ludicrous that I would be killed only eight kilometers into my journey and not for the first time worried that when I was killed people would think me foolhardy....'

      This is a man who served in the military, lectured at Harvard, walked from Iran to Nepal and ran a post war province in Iraq. He has also set up humanitarian groups.

      But we're getting Boris Johnson.
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      Was that when we took Bejams....?
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      Crossed most definitely

      I was talking about Boris the Buffoon
      Although Boris has pretty clearly said he wants a deal and that 'no deal' is just a negotiating tactic (thus ruling it out as a negotiating tactic)
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      Well at least the SNP are doing their bit to highlight the fact that Johnson is completely unfit for office.
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      I suspect today or tomorrow Stewart will go. A shame and a dark day for politics in this country.

      I've seen loads of his lectures and read his work. We would never have had a PM so grounded and with such an experienced worldview.

      One of my favourite quotes from the 'The places in between':

      'I felt it ludicrous that I would be killed only eight kilometers into my journey and not for the first time worried that when I was killed people would think me foolhardy....'

      This is a man who served in the military, lectured at Harvard, walked from Iran to Nepal and ran a post war province in Iraq. He has also set up humanitarian groups.

      But we're getting Boris Johnson.
      I suspect Stewart's time will come in the future, the last two weeks have put him on the map. Until this election most people hadn't even heard of him. In a time of extreme politics he's just claimed the centre ground before anyone else.
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      Although Boris has pretty clearly said he wants a deal and that 'no deal' is just a negotiating tactic (thus ruling it out as a negotiating tactic)
      Not if they know it's a negotiating tactic which in return makes you weaker when they call your bluff. There are no shrewd strategies for this type of negotiation but it can be drawn out longer if games are being played. To actually plan for a no deal is going to be harder, more expensive and more time consuming than getting the deal over the line and the most that will happen is to pretend that we have a no deal contingency plan, when in fact we won't have a plan at all.

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