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The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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West is BEST
Just got back from Crete thanks, works for mugs eh:dunce:
Regards
DR

Nothing to be proud of. Sponging off the tax payer you claim to stick up for. You’ll have done yourself no favours with that post. Crete’s a total toilet these days anyway. Cheap destination for cheap people.
 


maltaseagull

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Feb 25, 2009
12,946
Zabbar- Malta
In your opinion, in all seriousness, what do you think the time limits should be on votes?

Say there was an advisory (non-binding) vote you disagreed with, but then it was messed around/not enacted for 5-10 years, you'd think it probably shouldn't be valid anymore, wouldn't you?

I think you are wasting your time. Far too much depth.
 


albion68

New member
Oct 27, 2011
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Once we get to 3 years most democracies start to think about calling for a fresh mandate from the public for stuff. We've gone past three years since the referendum, that mandate is only getting more tenuous.

Seeing as we meant to leave in march 19 anyway should we take that time off the period since 2016 that we were supposed to achieve Brexit ,you can`t say IMO that we were failing to complete Brexit in 3 yrs when it was going to take 3 yrs anyway ,so we are about 4 months late ,most of the 3yrs was spent not knowing what TM`s deal was and pretty much all of Labour M`Ps voting against her deal , for different reasons then the Tories.
 


GrizzlingGammon

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Dec 15, 2018
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Getting back to our new potential PM. It seems as though islamophobia is rife amongst the Conservatives and their supporters.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jun/27/tory-islamophobia-inquiry-will-be-general-investigation-boris-johnson-sajid-javid

Tory Islamophobia inquiry now 'general investigation', says Boris Johnson.


A promised independent inquiry into Islamophobia in the Conservative party has been downgraded to a “general investigation” into all types of prejudice, Boris Johnson has said, going back on what was seemingly agreed in a recent BBC debate.

The move was condemned by the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), which said it demonstrated an “unwillingness to deal with bigotry seriously”, while Labour said Johnson had “broken his promise in less than two weeks”.

In an interview with the ConservativeHome website, the Tory leadership frontrunner said he had agreed with Sajid Javid, the home secretary, who pushed for the Islamophobia inquiry, that it should instead have a broader focus.

The idea was raised by Javid during a BBC leadership debate involving the candidates still in the race at the time – the others being Johnson, Jeremy Hunt, Michael Gove and Rory Stewart.

Asked if he believed such an inquiry should be held, Javid said: “Yes I would – do you all agree, guys? Shall we have an external investigation in the Conservative party into Islamophobia?” The other candidates all seemingly agreed, with none raising any objections.

But in the ConservativeHome interview, when asked about the plan, Johnson said: “Well, I took it up with Saj afterwards and he said that actually, if I understand it correctly, what we’ve committed to is a general investigation into all types of prejudice and discrimination, including antisemitism.”

Asked if this would be an independent investigation, Johnson replied: “Yup.” He added: “So yes, we’ll have to study exactly what Saj has in mind, but it sounded like a sensible idea when he mentioned it.”

There was no response from representatives of Javid when asked to confirm that he had agreed to this plan.

The apparent downgrading of the inquiry will disappoint anti-Islamophobia campaigners, who have repeatedly called for the Conservatives to tackle the issue.

A poll of Tory members earlier this week found nearly half would prefer not to have a Muslim prime minister.

The survey, carried out by YouGov for the anti-racism group Hope Not Hate, also found more than two-thirds of Tory members believe the myth that parts of the UK are under sharia law, and 45% think some areas are not safe for non-Muslims.

Half the party’s members think Islamophobia is a big issue, but only 8% believe it is a problem within the party, the survey found, while 40% of members wanted to see fewer Muslims in the UK.

An MCB spokesman said: “We are disappointed to see that Mr Johnson has apparently reneged on his promise for an independent inquiry into Islamophobia in the Conservative party.

“It has become all too apparent that the Conservatives have a problem with Islamophobia, as evidenced this week with a damning poll revealing how rank-and-file Conservative party members hold conspiratorial views on Muslims.

“Rowing back on the promise only demonstrates further unwillingness to deal with bigotry seriously. We expect nothing less than a full and independent inquiry into Islamophobia.”

Naz Shah, the shadow equalities minister, said: “Boris Johnson has broken his promise in less than two weeks. Anything short of a full, independent inquiry into Islamophobia and racism in the Conservative party will be an insult to Muslim communities, and will compound the hurt and anguish that is already being felt.”
 


The Birdman

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Nov 30, 2008
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Looks happy
 






Eeyore

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That's why we will be leaving on the 31st October 2019 as instructed by the referendum result, it's not difficult to understand or perhaps it is for you :dunce:
regards
DR

That's the second time you have said that in a few entries.

So.

Why aren't you taking up my bet ?
 


Sussex Nomad

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Aug 26, 2010
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Whoever our next PM is, Johnson, Hunt, Corbyn, Putin, Lennon, Buddha, Jesus Christ, I wish them all the best, this country is well and truly split now.
 




Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Whoever our next PM is, Johnson, Hunt, Corbyn, Putin, Lennon, Buddha, Jesus Christ, I wish them all the best, this country is well and truly split now.

That's why we need to pull together when we leave , no good sulking over spilt milk , # Believe in Britian
regards
DR
 


Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Getting back to our new potential PM. It seems as though islamophobia is rife amongst the Conservatives and their supporters.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jun/27/tory-islamophobia-inquiry-will-be-general-investigation-boris-johnson-sajid-javid

Tory Islamophobia inquiry now 'general investigation', says Boris Johnson.


A promised independent inquiry into Islamophobia in the Conservative party has been downgraded to a “general investigation” into all types of prejudice, Boris Johnson has said, going back on what was seemingly agreed in a recent BBC debate.

The move was condemned by the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), which said it demonstrated an “unwillingness to deal with bigotry seriously”, while Labour said Johnson had “broken his promise in less than two weeks”.

In an interview with the ConservativeHome website, the Tory leadership frontrunner said he had agreed with Sajid Javid, the home secretary, who pushed for the Islamophobia inquiry, that it should instead have a broader focus.

The idea was raised by Javid during a BBC leadership debate involving the candidates still in the race at the time – the others being Johnson, Jeremy Hunt, Michael Gove and Rory Stewart.

Asked if he believed such an inquiry should be held, Javid said: “Yes I would – do you all agree, guys? Shall we have an external investigation in the Conservative party into Islamophobia?” The other candidates all seemingly agreed, with none raising any objections.

But in the ConservativeHome interview, when asked about the plan, Johnson said: “Well, I took it up with Saj afterwards and he said that actually, if I understand it correctly, what we’ve committed to is a general investigation into all types of prejudice and discrimination, including antisemitism.”

Asked if this would be an independent investigation, Johnson replied: “Yup.” He added: “So yes, we’ll have to study exactly what Saj has in mind, but it sounded like a sensible idea when he mentioned it.”

There was no response from representatives of Javid when asked to confirm that he had agreed to this plan.

The apparent downgrading of the inquiry will disappoint anti-Islamophobia campaigners, who have repeatedly called for the Conservatives to tackle the issue.

A poll of Tory members earlier this week found nearly half would prefer not to have a Muslim prime minister.

The survey, carried out by YouGov for the anti-racism group Hope Not Hate, also found more than two-thirds of Tory members believe the myth that parts of the UK are under sharia law, and 45% think some areas are not safe for non-Muslims.

Half the party’s members think Islamophobia is a big issue, but only 8% believe it is a problem within the party, the survey found, while 40% of members wanted to see fewer Muslims in the UK.

An MCB spokesman said: “We are disappointed to see that Mr Johnson has apparently reneged on his promise for an independent inquiry into Islamophobia in the Conservative party.

“It has become all too apparent that the Conservatives have a problem with Islamophobia, as evidenced this week with a damning poll revealing how rank-and-file Conservative party members hold conspiratorial views on Muslims.

“Rowing back on the promise only demonstrates further unwillingness to deal with bigotry seriously. We expect nothing less than a full and independent inquiry into Islamophobia.”

Naz Shah, the shadow equalities minister, said: “Boris Johnson has broken his promise in less than two weeks. Anything short of a full, independent inquiry into Islamophobia and racism in the Conservative party will be an insult to Muslim communities, and will compound the hurt and anguish that is already being felt.”

What a load of crap
regards
DR
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,525
Gods country fortnightly
Getting back to our new potential PM. It seems as though islamophobia is rife amongst the Conservatives and their supporters.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jun/27/tory-islamophobia-inquiry-will-be-general-investigation-boris-johnson-sajid-javid

Tory Islamophobia inquiry now 'general investigation', says Boris Johnson.


A promised independent inquiry into Islamophobia in the Conservative party has been downgraded to a “general investigation” into all types of prejudice, Boris Johnson has said, going back on what was seemingly agreed in a recent BBC debate.

The move was condemned by the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), which said it demonstrated an “unwillingness to deal with bigotry seriously”, while Labour said Johnson had “broken his promise in less than two weeks”.

In an interview with the ConservativeHome website, the Tory leadership frontrunner said he had agreed with Sajid Javid, the home secretary, who pushed for the Islamophobia inquiry, that it should instead have a broader focus.

The idea was raised by Javid during a BBC leadership debate involving the candidates still in the race at the time – the others being Johnson, Jeremy Hunt, Michael Gove and Rory Stewart.

Asked if he believed such an inquiry should be held, Javid said: “Yes I would – do you all agree, guys? Shall we have an external investigation in the Conservative party into Islamophobia?” The other candidates all seemingly agreed, with none raising any objections.

But in the ConservativeHome interview, when asked about the plan, Johnson said: “Well, I took it up with Saj afterwards and he said that actually, if I understand it correctly, what we’ve committed to is a general investigation into all types of prejudice and discrimination, including antisemitism.”

Asked if this would be an independent investigation, Johnson replied: “Yup.” He added: “So yes, we’ll have to study exactly what Saj has in mind, but it sounded like a sensible idea when he mentioned it.”

There was no response from representatives of Javid when asked to confirm that he had agreed to this plan.

The apparent downgrading of the inquiry will disappoint anti-Islamophobia campaigners, who have repeatedly called for the Conservatives to tackle the issue.

A poll of Tory members earlier this week found nearly half would prefer not to have a Muslim prime minister.

The survey, carried out by YouGov for the anti-racism group Hope Not Hate, also found more than two-thirds of Tory members believe the myth that parts of the UK are under sharia law, and 45% think some areas are not safe for non-Muslims.

Half the party’s members think Islamophobia is a big issue, but only 8% believe it is a problem within the party, the survey found, while 40% of members wanted to see fewer Muslims in the UK.

An MCB spokesman said: “We are disappointed to see that Mr Johnson has apparently reneged on his promise for an independent inquiry into Islamophobia in the Conservative party.

“It has become all too apparent that the Conservatives have a problem with Islamophobia, as evidenced this week with a damning poll revealing how rank-and-file Conservative party members hold conspiratorial views on Muslims.

“Rowing back on the promise only demonstrates further unwillingness to deal with bigotry seriously. We expect nothing less than a full and independent inquiry into Islamophobia.”

Naz Shah, the shadow equalities minister, said: “Boris Johnson has broken his promise in less than two weeks. Anything short of a full, independent inquiry into Islamophobia and racism in the Conservative party will be an insult to Muslim communities, and will compound the hurt and anguish that is already being felt.”

This is really all you need to know...

8% believe it is a problem within the party, the survey found, while 40% of members wanted to see fewer Muslims in the UK.
 




Mo Gosfield

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Aug 11, 2010
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Whoever our next PM is, Johnson, Hunt, Corbyn, Putin, Lennon, Buddha, Jesus Christ, I wish them all the best, this country is well and truly split now.

This country has been split for years, its just a lot of people couldn't be bothered to notice. Now that they've got their knickers in a twist about Brexit, all of a sudden, apparently, its split the country. Its this sort of head in the sand, I'm alright Jack and sod the rest attitude that has got us to where we are now. Its just a pity there wasn't more social concern in the last 20-25 years rather than all this wailing and gnashing of teeth now, when people don't think they are going to get their way.
 




DavidinSouthampton

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Jan 3, 2012
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This country has been split for years, its just a lot of people couldn't be bothered to notice. Now that they've got their knickers in a twist about Brexit, all of a sudden, apparently, its split the country. Its this sort of head in the sand, I'm alright Jack and sod the rest attitude that has got us to where we are now. Its just a pity there wasn't more social concern in the last 20-25 years rather than all this wailing and gnashing of teeth now, when people don't think they are going to get their way.

There's split, and then there's split. And I agree that the current split is down to the previous split!
 








crookie

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Jun 14, 2013
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Back in Sussex
Boris promises review of 'unhealthy food taxes'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48847952

Must be a new Tory party donor on the horizon, wonder who?
Caught a bit of an interview with the sports minister on the radio this morning desperately trying to avoid giving a straight answer to the question of whether or not she supported the scrapping of the sugar tax. Tried to deflect by banging on about the importance of exercise, implying you can have as shite a diet as you like as long as you run around a bit. Utterly embarrassing. MUst be a Boris supporter

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nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,525
Gods country fortnightly
Caught a bit of an interview with the sports minister on the radio this morning desperately trying to avoid giving a straight answer to the question of whether or not she supported the scrapping of the sugar tax. Tried to deflect by banging on about the importance of exercise, implying you can have as shite a diet as you like as long as you run around a bit. Utterly embarrassing. MUst be a Boris supporter

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The proceeds from the tax will help fund healthy school breakfast clubs and be reinvested in sport in schools.

If I recall correct, the government said if revenue from the levy drops funding for schools and children will stay the same.

So in the safe hands of Tories we have nothing to worry about do we??
 









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