[Politics] Our next prime minister BBC 1

Hamilton · Jul 9, 2019

Boris is a shoo-in with this selectorate. And he really is a buffoon that will drives us towards the edge with a naive #MBGA style approach which everyone can support with minimal effort because it requires zero thought.

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nicko31 · Jul 9, 2019

Amazed they bothered with that sh1t show on ITV tonight, half the dinosaurs have already voted.

Quote of the night from our idiot in waiting...

“Vanishingly inexpensive if we prepare for no deal Brexit"

Wrong-Direction · Jul 9, 2019

The Live debate on ITV, complete waffle, ffs.

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Milano · Jul 9, 2019

If it wasn’t so scary it would be funny - 160k Daily Mail readers (who will all be lording this moment) are making a decision for 80 million. There should be a general election.

Wrong-Direction · Jul 9, 2019

Surely people can see through all this fake bullocks, a 5 year old can tell they've been learning lines all week

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Eeyore · Jul 9, 2019

Never thought I would be living in dear hope that Jeremy Hunt would be the next First Minister. Still needs must.

Change at Barnham · Jul 9, 2019

I now view the Daily Telegraph as being far more right wing than the Daily Mail.

The Rivet · Jul 9, 2019

Lmfao......the remainers all over this board tonight are bricking it!

Bodian · Jul 9, 2019

Wrong-Direction said:
Surely people can see through all this fake bullocks, a 5 year old can tell they've been learning lines all week

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I'm not sure Boris had any actual lines to learn?

beorhthelm · Jul 9, 2019

Wrong-Direction said:
Surely people can see through all this fake bullocks, a 5 year old can tell they've been learning lines all week

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same as all TV debates, they add little value.

Wrong-Direction · Jul 9, 2019

Boris came across terribly but the audience lapping it up, people are ****ing strange

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Raleigh Chopper · Jul 9, 2019

The Rivet said:
Lmfao......the remainers all over this board tonight are bricking it!

Total opposite.
I have never been more confident that Brexit will stall, not saying we won't leave, sometime or other, but a very slim chance of Halloween.
Firstly they were both lying and just said what people wanted to hear.
Both will bottle no deal, they both know it's a disaster for this country.
EU will not renegotiate on the deal and if they do with either of them it will be minimal and it's already failed 3 times.
Neither had a concrete plan regarding the backstop, still going on about technology that doesn't exist, the EU have even been searching for it for years and still not found it.
For both it was only about getting into number 10 then giving us all the finger and until Labour sort themselves out whoever wins will go on to be the democratically elected PM, even after the Brexit mess.
Or maybe even Farage, I would not put it past the public to even do that.
Johnson behaved like a spoilt kid as usual and Hunt is a quiet assassin.
Both are hopeless.
We are in a mess of biblical proportions.

Blackadder · Jul 10, 2019

Boris will Get in.

We will leave the EU.

We will become the 51st State.

Now that's what I call "Taking back control".

clapham_gull · Jul 10, 2019

The Rivet said:
Lmfao......the remainers all over this board tonight are bricking it!

Worried about others, but not bricking it.

Demographically remainers are those most unlikely to unaffected by your low regulation, low tax, small state revolution. Quite the opposite.

Let's face it - you gave up believing your life will get better months ago and now are clinging on simply pissing others off.

That's bitter for you.

clapham_gull · Jul 10, 2019

Raleigh Chopper said:
Total opposite.
I have never been more confident that Brexit will stall, not saying we won't leave, sometime or other, but a very slim chance of Halloween.
Firstly they were both lying and just said what people wanted to hear.
Both will bottle no deal, they both know it's a disaster for this country.
EU will not renegotiate on the deal and if they do with either of them it will be minimal and it's already failed 3 times.
Neither had a concrete plan regarding the backstop, still going on about technology that doesn't exist, the EU have even been searching for it for years and still not found it.
For both it was only about getting into number 10 then giving us all the finger and until Labour sort themselves out whoever wins will go on to be the democratically elected PM, even after the Brexit mess.
Or maybe even Farage, I would not put it past the public to even do that.
Johnson behaved like a spoilt kid as usual and Hunt is a quiet assassin.
Both are hopeless.
We are in a mess of biblical proportions.

I suspect the Tories will simply jettison Northern Ireland then call a general election. Keeping Northern Ireland effectively in the EU will only take a few phone calls.

rippleman · Jul 10, 2019

Boris reminded me much of Lieutenant George (Blackadder - Corporal Punishment) playing the mindless optimism card.

Thought Boris did well with his scripted statements. Thought he was awful in the debate itself; he evaded all of the relevant questions.

But the pair of them behaved like 6 year olds having a falling out at playtime. Pathetic........and somewhat worrying.

stewart12 · Jul 10, 2019

it's a concern when you're sincerely hoping that JEREMY HUNT becomes our next prime minister

highflyer · Jul 10, 2019

Raleigh Chopper said:
Total opposite.
I have never been more confident that Brexit will stall, not saying we won't leave, sometime or other, but a very slim chance of Halloween.
Firstly they were both lying and just said what people wanted to hear.
Both will bottle no deal, they both know it's a disaster for this country.
EU will not renegotiate on the deal and if they do with either of them it will be minimal and it's already failed 3 times.
Neither had a concrete plan regarding the backstop, still going on about technology that doesn't exist, the EU have even been searching for it for years and still not found it.
For both it was only about getting into number 10 then giving us all the finger and until Labour sort themselves out whoever wins will go on to be the democratically elected PM, even after the Brexit mess.
Or maybe even Farage, I would not put it past the public to even do that.
Johnson behaved like a spoilt kid as usual and Hunt is a quiet assassin.
Both are hopeless.
We are in a mess of biblical proportions.

Agree with this. Except I am not sure Boris would bottle no deal. I think he reckons he can shift blame to the EU when it all goes tits up.

But still cannot see either of them making it happen. I am not a hard remainer (would be Ok with soft brexit) but it's increasingly clear that there is very little chance of brexit taking place on the 31st Oct.

The 'plan A' of both candidates rely on the EU making a significant concession on the position they have stuck firmly to previously. Possible, but most commentators who know what they are talking about seem to think highly unlikely.

Plan B for boris seems to be hard Brexit. That relies on a number of his own MPs chickening out at the last moment and allowing it to happen rather than risk a GE. Again, possible but current signals are that is still highly unlikely. Last night's vote lengthens the odds.

Plan B for Jeremy seems to be...further delay. So no exit on 31st oct. But since he won't win anyway, it's largely moot

So plan A and plan B are long shots.

And Plan C doesn't exist.

So...how?

CHAPPERS · Jul 10, 2019

highflyer said:
Agree with this. Except I am not sure Boris would bottle no deal. I think he reckons he can shift blame to the EU when it all goes tits up.

But still cannot see either of them making it happen. I am not a hard remainer (would be Ok with soft brexit) but it's increasingly clear that there is very little chance of brexit taking place on the 31st Oct.

The 'plan A' of both candidates rely on the EU making a significant concession on the position they have stuck firmly to previously. Possible, but most commentators who know what they are talking about seem to think highly unlikely.

Plan B for boris seems to be hard Brexit. That relies on a number of his own MPs chickening out at the last moment and allowing it to happen rather than risk a GE. Again, possible but current signals are that is still highly unlikely. Last night's vote lengthens the odds.

Plan B for Jeremy seems to be...further delay. So no exit on 31st oct. But since he won't win anyway, it's largely moot

So plan A and plan B are long shots.

And Plan C doesn't exist.

So...how?

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mejonaNO12 aka riskit · Jul 10, 2019

I watched the first half, made up my mind, and switched off.

It felt like every question was answered in the following way

Boris "It will all be fine!!! (crowd applause), We are BRILLIANT (crowd applause), I don't want to even consider a negative option (crowd applause)

Jezza: "Of course I want to do X and Y but I am also a realist (silence). I don't want to lie and say everything will be done by a certain time if I can't guarantee it (silence). It would be wrong for me to lie to you (silence).

Seems Boris had the Happy Clappers on side. I'm not pro either candidate, but I was STAGGERED that the audience seemed to be falling for Boris' clear attempts to basically gain applause by random positive remarks.

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