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[Politics] Corbyn backing the other side..........again



Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,739
LOONEY BIN
Maybe, it is something to do with his Soviet sympathising over the years. Maybe it has something to do with his admiration of Maduro socialism in Venezuela. Maybe because I am rather suspicious of the people who are his chief advisers, such as Seamus Milne, Andrew Murray (and relatives!) and Len McCluskey.Maybe because of proposals such as the Lifetime Tax. Maybe because his wannabe Chancellor has a stated aim of wanting to bring about the downfall of Capitalism and maybe because , the same fellow was sacked by Ken Livingstone for being too left wing! Maybe because the likes of Corbyn and McDonnell are driven by some outdated ideology that would, in all likelihood,. bankrupt the country. Maybe because many decent and moderate Labour politicians are horrified that the hard left and Momentum have taken over the party.etc.etc.
On a slightly different tack, I would also fear for the security of this country with Corbyn as P.M. and I am sure that the security service chiefs would feel the same way. I don't believe he has the leadership, managerial or intellectual qualities to be leader of the Opposition, let alone P.M.He had been a rebellious backbench MP for the whole of his political career and regarded as a nobody, until, to 'widen the choice' in the Labour Party leadership contest the likes of Frank Field nominated him to run. Wow, what a disaster that turned out to be. The £3 Labour Party gang piled in and hey presto, Jezza became leader! Sadly, the result is that when the Tory party is in a shambles, there is no decent opposition to takes its place.It is surely a fact, that had Labour elected a decent moderate, instead of 'Magic Grandpa', they would be way ahead in the polls. The British public do not like hard left or hard right politics and that is the reason why Corbyn and his dangerous Chancellor have failed to gain the traction any reasonable Opposition party should.
I am no politico and I have put down a few random thoughts; no doubt an 'enthusiast' could do a far more polished job, than me!:thumbsup:

Too long. Didn’t read as it’s shite

BTW have you heard of paragraphs???
 




BLOCK F

Well-known member
Feb 26, 2009
6,356
Too long. Didn’t read as it’s shite

BTW have you heard of paragraphs???

Hi Ernie, yes, I have heard of paragraphs and I have used three, but my random thoughts were not meant to be a model of English grammar.......I didn't think Jezza warranted it.
Shite to you maybe, but true nevertheless!:thumbsup:
 




hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
61,336
Chandlers Ford
Well if we want better services and in general a nicer country to live in , none of us that can will mind paying a couple more pence in the pound tax. Look at the Scandinavian model.

Looking at Scandinavian models is ALWAYS a sensible course of action.
 






Commander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Apr 28, 2004
12,923
London
Too long. Didn’t read as it’s shite

BTW have you heard of paragraphs???

If you didn’t read it, how do you know it’s shite?

What you actually meant was “Not agreeing with me, so not worth reading as I’m too set in my ways”. Which is a bit pathetic, really.
 




Commander

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Hastings gull

Well-known member
Nov 23, 2013
4,635
Maybe, it is something to do with his Soviet sympathising over the years. Maybe it has something to do with his admiration of Maduro socialism in Venezuela. Maybe because I am rather suspicious of the people who are his chief advisers, such as Seamus Milne, Andrew Murray (and relatives!) and Len McCluskey.Maybe because of proposals such as the Lifetime Tax. Maybe because his wannabe Chancellor has a stated aim of wanting to bring about the downfall of Capitalism and maybe because , the same fellow was sacked by Ken Livingstone for being too left wing! Maybe because the likes of Corbyn and McDonnell are driven by some outdated ideology that would, in all likelihood,. bankrupt the country. Maybe because many decent and moderate Labour politicians are horrified that the hard left and Momentum have taken over the party.etc.etc.
On a slightly different tack, I would also fear for the security of this country with Corbyn as P.M. and I am sure that the security service chiefs would feel the same way. I don't believe he has the leadership, managerial or intellectual qualities to be leader of the Opposition, let alone P.M.He had been a rebellious backbench MP for the whole of his political career and regarded as a nobody, until, to 'widen the choice' in the Labour Party leadership contest the likes of Frank Field nominated him to run. Wow, what a disaster that turned out to be. The £3 Labour Party gang piled in and hey presto, Jezza became leader! Sadly, the result is that when the Tory party is in a shambles, there is no decent opposition to takes its place.It is surely a fact, that had Labour elected a decent moderate, instead of 'Magic Grandpa', they would be way ahead in the polls. The British public do not like hard left or hard right politics and that is the reason why Corbyn and his dangerous Chancellor have failed to gain the traction any reasonable Opposition party should.
I am no politico and I have put down a few random thoughts; no doubt an 'enthusiast' could do a far more polished job, than me!:thumbsup:

Excellent post, but please stop posting such common sense on here.
 




The Merry Prankster

Pactum serva
Aug 19, 2006
5,577
Shoreham Beach
Maybe, it is something to do with his Soviet sympathising over the years. Maybe it has something to do with his admiration of Maduro socialism in Venezuela. Maybe because I am rather suspicious of the people who are his chief advisers, such as Seamus Milne, Andrew Murray (and relatives!) and Len McCluskey.Maybe because of proposals such as the Lifetime Tax. Maybe because his wannabe Chancellor has a stated aim of wanting to bring about the downfall of Capitalism and maybe because , the same fellow was sacked by Ken Livingstone for being too left wing! Maybe because the likes of Corbyn and McDonnell are driven by some outdated ideology that would, in all likelihood,. bankrupt the country. Maybe because many decent and moderate Labour politicians are horrified that the hard left and Momentum have taken over the party.etc.etc.
On a slightly different tack, I would also fear for the security of this country with Corbyn as P.M. and I am sure that the security service chiefs would feel the same way. I don't believe he has the leadership, managerial or intellectual qualities to be leader of the Opposition, let alone P.M.He had been a rebellious backbench MP for the whole of his political career and regarded as a nobody, until, to 'widen the choice' in the Labour Party leadership contest the likes of Frank Field nominated him to run. Wow, what a disaster that turned out to be. The £3 Labour Party gang piled in and hey presto, Jezza became leader! Sadly, the result is that when the Tory party is in a shambles, there is no decent opposition to takes its place.It is surely a fact, that had Labour elected a decent moderate, instead of 'Magic Grandpa', they would be way ahead in the polls. The British public do not like hard left or hard right politics and that is the reason why Corbyn and his dangerous Chancellor have failed to gain the traction any reasonable Opposition party should.
I am no politico and I have put down a few random thoughts; no doubt an 'enthusiast' could do a far more polished job, than me!:thumbsup:

I'd suggest reading the manifesto.
 




















beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,311
Read the manifesto. It was fully costed as opposed to the Tory one.

may have budgeted for the spending, but it relied on a massive 250bn debt being issued.
and as i recall the costings were called in to question by experts. a promise to maintain a balance budget excluded infrastructure, which had more billions, ignoring that all the infrastructure would need onward staffing and maintenance costs.

a link. https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-the-labour-manifesto
 
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