Stumpy Tim
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The purge of Labour of the exact type of voter they need to win continues. Green for me from now on
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[News] Alastair Campbell expelled.
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Other than the fact Campbell and Blair aren't best friends, and Blair isn't a war criminal, you've hit the nail on the head there.
Tom Bombadil
Well-known member
Led ISIS, that's quite an accusation you're making there
Again factually incorrect. At the time the invasion wasn't illegal. Since then the laws surrounding such things have been clarified. Since the law cannot be applied retrospectively, it wasn't an illegal invasion.
Tony Towner's Fridge
Well-known member
Can't stand the big sh!t. A fully obnoxious up himself arrogant Blairite.....kicked out of the 'New Trotsky' thug party......
Love it, divorce made in hell!
TNBA
TTF
Love it, divorce made in hell!
TNBA
TTF
symyjym
Banned
Yeah I meant to write led to ISIS.
Labour don't want the centre-left or moderates.
They'll never win an election under Corbyn, thank God. And I say that as a life-long Labour voter. I'm siding with the Lib Dems atm,
Out of interest, why do you think Blairite is a bad thing?
I imagine an injection of 'Blairite' third-way politics that captures the center-ground would be a recipe for cleaning up at the next GE.
Yeah, he's such a tosser, with his refreshingly open and frankness about his struggles with depression and alcoholism, and his charity work. The wanker.
Sussex Nomad
Well-known member
He is still a bit of a smug tosser though, wouldn't you agree?
However on the broader scope, the two party state showing their democracy card yet again, Tory's with Heseltine, Commies with Campbell.
Probably crawling from under the nearest stone, I should think.
He is head of Strategy and Communications.
Ghastly man.
Lower West Stander
Well-known member
Don't like him much, but he was a moderate.
The Labour Party lurches ever further to the left and becomes ever more unelectable as the rants of the Corbynistas become louder....
The Labour Party lurches ever further to the left and becomes ever more unelectable as the rants of the Corbynistas become louder....
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Corbyn's handler.
Just because he has depression and does charidy work doesn’t mean he isn’t a **** though?
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
It is actually the opposite.
Whenever Labour has a move to the left, it is the centre-left who cannot compromise their views, so flounce off to start the SDP, or Change UK or whatever else. Those who believe in the left, didn't jump ship when Blair revoked article 4, or took Labour down a path of soft-Toryism, they stayed with the party made their displeasure known with rebel votes and the such, but stayed loyal.
So we have a Labour that wants to embark on left of centre-left politics, and that's all it is, and it's hissy fits all round. Campbell has been an agitator since Corbyn was elected leader.
The problem isn't labour not wanting the centre-left, the problem is the centre-left don't want to go to bed without their safety blanket of the centre ground.
symyjym
Banned
You can argue the technicalities but a war based on deception is morally wrong and the Chilcot report says that deception was used. I guess murdering hundreds of thousands of people on made up facts ok with you and no justice is required if the person is British?
This is exactly the attitude that encourages terrorism.
Sussex Nomad
Well-known member
I prefer the Brexit deception to the Iraq war one, at least less people died as a result.
Blair claims he acted on the facts available to him at the time, I believe him - you don't. That doesn't make me happy that so many people lost their lives. Nobody would be OK with that, well, maybe Saddam Hussein would?