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    I'm not sure what you can base that on. Balogun has spent the majority of his career in the Bundesliga, and has played for his country nearly 30 times including at the African Nations and a World Cup.

    Clarke might be a decent enough prospect, but all has faced in his career so far is the likes of Rochdale, Gillingham and Accrington in the noddy leagues. The most fearsome team he's come up against so far is Luton Town.

    Given time he might be ok, but he's got an awful lot to prove. The step-up from the third division to the Premier League is not one I've seen many centrebacks pull off.
    Connor Goldson started down in the dirty leagues and now playing for Rangers. A player who was highly thought of. Maybe same pattern forming here ?
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      Thought he did okay initially and against Palace, but admittedly was poor vs WBA, and in another game (?Arsenal)....

      Always hard coming into the PL from another league (see Bernardo) and even harder when you’re on the bench.

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      It was the info that was in Twitter at the time, if you bothered to read the rest of the thread you could see it got superceded.
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      Connor Goldson started down in the dirty leagues and now playing for Rangers. A player who was highly thought of. Maybe same pattern forming here ?
      Good shout, although he's only in the MTL now. I really rated Goldson, but we'll probably never know now whether he could've made the step-up to the Premier League. Plenty on here had their reservations.

      Personally I was disappointed when we didn't get Tomori on a permanent deal after his promising loan spell. He's a player who I can definitely see carving out a career as a PL defender. He might even get his chance this season if FF gets the Chelsea gig, what with their transfer embargo.
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      Didn't Lewis Dunk start his career in League One?

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      Didn't Lewis Dunk start his career in League One?

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      He also had a more gradual learning curve, with 5/6 years in the Championship though - and boy, did he need it. He had spells where he consistently looked like an accident waiting to happen. But with regular football next to some excellent CB's of the calibre of Greer and Upson, and with some quality coaching, eventually he eradicated the mistakes then flourished and matured into the player we see today.

      Back then, had he gone from us in L1 straight up to a Premier League club at that stage of his career, he'd have been eaten alive and may never have recovered.
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      Good shout, although he's only in the MTL now. I really rated Goldson, but we'll probably never know now whether he could've made the step-up to the Premier League. Plenty on here had their reservations.

      Personally I was disappointed when we didn't get Tomori on a permanent deal after his promising loan spell. He's a player who I can definitely see carving out a career as a PL defender. He might even get his chance this season if FF gets the Chelsea gig, what with their transfer embargo.
      I’m not sure Goldson has what it takes to step up to PL level. There’s a reason why the club were prepared to have Duffy as our most expensive signing in the 2016 summer window.

      I agree that Tomori is a great defender with bags of potential and wouldn’t have complained if we’d signed him in any transfer window since his loan spell with us.
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      I’m not sure Goldson has what it takes to step up to PL level. There’s a reason why the club were prepared to have Duffy as our most expensive signing in the 2016 summer window.

      I agree that Tomori is a great defender with bags of potential and wouldn’t have complained if we’d signed him in any transfer window since his loan spell with us.
      We missed the boat a bit with him didn't we. Although of course we have no idea what kind of fee Chelsea were after, and they may have wanted to keep him on their books whilst continuing to just loan him out, as they have done since.

      I thought at the time that Tomori would be a great investment though, you could see he had all the attributes. Quick, strong, excellent header of the ball. He was only going to get better, and CH would certainly have been the perfect tutor to bring that out of him. We got Duffy instead though, and that worked out ok, to be fair.
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      He also had a more gradual learning curve, with 5/6 years in the Championship though - and boy, did he need it. He had spells where he consistently looked like an accident waiting to happen. But with regular football next to some excellent CB's of the calibre of Greer and Upson, and with some quality coaching, eventually he eradicated the mistakes then flourished and matured into the player we see today.

      Back then, had he gone from us in L1 straight up to a Premier League club at that stage of his career, he'd have been eaten alive and may never have recovered.
      I know.

      It was just a fairly weak attempt at countering the people who have written this guy off before he's even put pen to paper.
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