Blimey, you were obviously in a lot more board meetings than any of us, to know that was the ONLY target set this season. Please, tell us more.
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[Albion] Chris Hughton statement
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Blimey, you were obviously in a lot more board meetings than any of us, to know that was the ONLY target set this season. Please, tell us more.
Or how about 'I knew we hadn't achieved the football the board wanted, but we had survived, and I thought I had the confidence of the board to take us forward next season'.
I don't think our drop in form was solely down to Chris. Some players under-performed, a lot of refereeing decisions went against us, and some opposition strikers hit form against us. Chris may have felt that way, and felt that despite not doing as well as the board would have liked, he'd still be the right man to help us progress.
Fine, if you want to do semantics - it was naive of him to be surprised, given how poorly we were performing.
TSB
Captain Hindsight
Classy guy.
Will be hugely missed by all decent supporters.
Will be hugely missed by all decent supporters.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
There is truth to it.
By the end of 13/14, from the previously successful play off challenges we lost:
Ulloa
Buckley
Barnes
Bridcutt
Lopez
Orlandi
Upson
Lingard
Ward
amoung others.
This culminated in a disastrous period of using loans that basically reaped it's rewards in the 2014/15 season where we had 10 or so loans that frankly took the piss.
The recruitment was changed, Burke went, it was restructured. How much Hughton played a part in this, who knows, but we started with solid signings 15/16, and 3 loans that included Sidwell, Wilson and Ridgewell. I don't think you can say what he inherited wasn't broken - it really was, the loan strategy nearly destroyed any remaining team spirit or belief at the club.
We were going down without Hughton steadying the ship. There really is no rewriting that. Then to take that team, of shattered belief and confidence, and lift them to within GD of promotion, I don't think you can reduce that transformation. Then to miss out with the worse luck you can imagine, both at Boro and in the PlayOffs, we went again and were even stronger.
The team spirit Hughton achieved perhaps up to this year was incredible. Got to say, think you're wrong on this one.
We survived mostly thanks to Cardiff being shitter than us. It was hardly The Great Escape a la Russell Slade.
Of course he has, and I don't think anybody is suggesting otherwise??
I've every respect for Chris Hughton. Decent bloke and a decent football manager.
All I meant was that the STATEMENT itself was pointless, in that it basically says nothing
father_and_son
Well-known member
How do you know that was the only objective?
That may have been the obvious one but I strongly suspect he had others that weren't met.
Yes, really.
It's inflated in such a way that the word 'helped' gets lost. What people see is 'Chris transformed Brighton'.
We were headed towards relegation, but once Hyypia was replaced I was confident that we would not be relegated. We needed a tactical change at that point, not master surgery.
I think the narrative is inaccurate. Chris should be thanked for his role as part of a wider team and it should be recognised that he has been one part of a highly effective management team. However, management teams change and new skills are required as the world changes. Chris's skills were what we needed, and we thank him. Now we need another aspect to change. I'm sure other roles behind the scenes have also changed as the club has moved into a new world and they have not been able to step up. That's the reality sometimes.
Of course he has, and I don't think anybody is suggesting otherwise??
I've every respect for Chris Hughton. Decent bloke and a decent football manager.
All I meant was that the STATEMENT itself was pointless, in that it basically says nothing
The fact he didn't thank TB is at least interesting...
That is basically how league tables work.
Hmm. A target like "Retain our PL status" is unambiguous - like any decent target should be, it's totally not open to interpretation.
I think it's far more likely (as others have said) that TB decided that Chris was a) unlikely to repeat the feat next season and that anyway b) he wanted a different type of football played next year - which is why he recruited Dan Ashworth in Sept 2018 (although he didn't start until Feb this year).
IF this is correct, and IF Tony didn't tell Chris either of these things, then it's reasonable for Chris to be "surprised".
Obviously - you've bizarrely chosen to edit my statement and deliberately ignore the context.
I'm disputing the narrative of Chris "rescuing" us, that makes it sound like we suddenly turned on the style and won multiple games to save our season. We were bloody lucky to stay up.
Chris didn't rescue us. Cardiff rescued us.
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If the only interesting thing 'in' a statement, is something that actually ISN'T in it, then you've pretty much reinforced my point.
Millwall had beaten Everton at home, and had the ref got things right, they'd have lost against us in normal time. That's a good enough performance. It's unrealistic to think we should just go away to a motivated Championship side and smash them.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
That is hindsight with 20/20 vision. I doubt very much many people thought we would avoid relegation in Dec 2014.
Well I don't know about the scoreline, but I agree we'd have won well enough in normal time.
Still pretty interesting.
Wellesley
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- Jul 24, 2013
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I get your point, but after being in the bottom two tiers, it's a huge advantage entering at the 4th round stage and having spent a fair few million on players. Totally different to the task faced by previous managers. We were very lucky with the draw too.