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    Quote Originally Posted by Beach Seagull View Post
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    Yeah maybe it is with middle aged men but not millionaire middle aged men. Not dismissing mental health but I am millionaire footballers who claim to suffer from it.

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      I don't know if I am one of the friends @Herr Tubthumper was talking about as I can't remember how much I have discussed my period of depression following the death of my dad seven years ago with him. It completely messed me up at the time, and I couldn't function for a few months.

      The OP shows a complete lack of understanding of what depression is, as has been clearly explained by several contributors to this thread. Difficulties in life can bring it on, negatively impacting the chemical and neurological balances in the brain - that's what happened with me - but for others these imbalances occur naturally. I am grateful that this is not the case for me.

      Keith Flint, Kurt Cobain, Robin Williams, Gary Speed, Ian Curtis...amongst many others, seemingly had it all, but were so depressed that they took their own lives.

      I guess the OP would have told them to 'man up'.
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      What interests me is how come everyone is suddenly talking about mental health. It seems like every second person has a mental health problem. Can't turn on the tele or the radio without someone bleating on about it. Turn the clock back 50 years and it wasn't a subject that was mentioned very often. There were a few folks in St Francis Hospital and that was about it. So what has happened? Is it just a passing fashion? Is it caused by too many people having too much "stuff" and a lot of other people getting overly upset because they don't have as much "stuff" as their friends and neighbours? How much of it is drugs related? How come it is now talked about as a major problem whereas 50 years ago it wasn't? Has the world gone mad?
      50 years ago it was called having a "mental breakdown" and the individuals suffering were treated like pariahs. "Oh you know Brenda? Yeah, just last week she suffered from a mental breakdown" "Oh dear, well we won't see much of her around now will we".

      Now we understand a bit more about it than then, and quite rightly. We're still not quite there though. Cue the OP.
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      50 years ago it was called having a "mental breakdown" and the individuals suffering were treated like pariahs. "Oh you know Brenda? Yeah, just last week she suffered from a mental breakdown" "Oh dear, well we won't see much of her around now will we".

      Now we understand a bit more about it than then, and quite rightly. We're still not quite there though. Cue the OP.
      Exactly, admitting to MH issues just wasn't (and sadly still isn't) done, with far too many still 'in the closet' akin to concealing homosexuality in the 1950s and it's no wonder with vile, ignorant posts like goldstone"s one, not to mention the OP. Two people straight from the dark ages of ignorant thinking that thankfully we are leaving behind.
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      Actually I'll give you a clear example of the ignorance of those who don't understand mental illness.

      My family has a history of mental illness, caused by a chemical imbalance - its affected 4 of us so far (and that includes me) and each time the family has supported them through it. That is all except my old man who on learning from my mum that I was having counselling and prescribed prozac (this was the early 90's) due to increasing thoughts of suicide, he turned to me and said "what the **** have you got to be depressed about? get over yourself". Never really had a close relationship with my dad....
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      Actually I'll give you a clear example of the ignorance of those who don't understand mental illness.

      My family has a history of mental illness, caused by a chemical imbalance - its affected 4 of us so far (and that includes me) and each time the family has supported them through it. That is all except my old man who on learning from my mum that I was having counselling and prescribed prozac (this was the early 90's) due to increasing thoughts of suicide, he turned to me and said "what the **** have you got to be depressed about? get over yourself". Never really had a close relationship with my dad....
      That's really sad, sorry to hear it.

      I suppose he had more excuse to hold these views nearly 30 years ago than Beach Seagull and Goldstone do now - people weren't as educated about the subject then. But being your dad...no, it's beyond me that he could respond like that.
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      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48294687

      Danny Rose crops up yet again talking about mental health and football. Damn right a club who were about to invest millions in transfer fee / wages carried out due diligence in him. Any sensible business about to make a large financial commitment would. I find it hard to believe they actually used the word 'crazy' but hey don't let the truth get in the way about a 'mental health' story.

      The participants in the documentary (a selection of current and ex footballers and a Prince) don't know the meaning of the word 'depression.' Try being diagnosed with a life changing illness and not being able to work and seeing ya income dry up risking losing your home or working endless hours for a pittance never being able to afford any of life's pleasures. That's depression.

      Those in the documentary have no idea of the real world, never done a proper days work and who have earned fortunes playing a game. No doubt after filming had ended they jumped into their expensive cars and drove back to their mansions. Or in Danny Rose's case maybe gone to London to spend thousands of pounds (as he stated he does) and he has the audacity to talk about depression.

      No doubt the usual liberal snowflakes will have a field day over the above and spout the usual guff about 'it's not about how much money you've got' but having a few million in the bank must help.
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      What interests me is how come everyone is suddenly talking about mental health. It seems like every second person has a mental health problem. Can't turn on the tele or the radio without someone bleating on about it. Turn the clock back 50 years and it wasn't a subject that was mentioned very often. There were a few folks in St Francis Hospital and that was about it. So what has happened? Is it just a passing fashion? Is it caused by too many people having too much "stuff" and a lot of other people getting overly upset because they don't have as much "stuff" as their friends and neighbours? How much of it is drugs related? How come it is now talked about as a major problem whereas 50 years ago it wasn't? Has the world gone mad?
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      What an ignorant post. Jesus Christ
      What do you expect from that poster. He only posts ignorant nonsense or offensive nonsense or (more often) ignorant, offensive nonsense.

      The gradual trend in suicide is going down. A lot of that is due to the fact that as a society we now understand and treat depression.

      Idiots like @goldstone and the OP just hinder the work that's done to encourage people to get help and not go down the darkest of paths

      Shame on them. Disgusting and dangerous rubbish which costs lives.
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      What interests me is how come everyone is suddenly talking about mental health. It seems like every second person has a mental health problem. Can't turn on the tele or the radio without someone bleating on about it. Turn the clock back 50 years and it wasn't a subject that was mentioned very often. There were a few folks in St Francis Hospital and that was about it. So what has happened? Is it just a passing fashion? Is it caused by too many people having too much "stuff" and a lot of other people getting overly upset because they don't have as much "stuff" as their friends and neighbours? How much of it is drugs related? How come it is now talked about as a major problem whereas 50 years ago it wasn't? Has the world gone mad?
      Since you mentioned "drugs related", I thought I'd tell you my story. I used to take ecstasy nearly every weekend while I held down a very physically-demanding job in the week. Was I entitled to let my hair down at the end of the week? Did anyone know the long-term damage of a raver's drug that caused no problems for bouncers or fellow clubbers at the time? Well, I can honestly tell you that I was very, very close to ending my life as I destroyed the feel-good receptors in my brain in the years that followed. After that I became a valium addict with my self-esteem at the lowest it could possibly ever become. The problem I have now is short-term memory loss and remembering people's names. Still, it serves me right for enjoying myself at weekends and deserve to be labelled as a down and out drug addict that you seem keen to point out that I chose a destructive path.

      I can think of a number of things to call you but as I'm a polite person on here I'll settle on ignorant. I don't know much about you but my God, you are a very lucky person indeed to have never suffered thoughts of a way out of a prison in your mind and cause upset to family and friends around you.

      We're discussing mental health illness now in a way that saves thousands of lives a year. But poor you - we should all just "man up" and keep a stiff upper-lip, shouldn't we?

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