Creaky
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Could we grow enough vegetables to feed us all without the use of insecticides?
Or don’t vegetarians consider insects as animals?
Or don’t vegetarians consider insects as animals?
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Can we all become veggies?
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beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,315
doubtful the single biggest impact on the environment, unless maybe you dont use power, technology, heating, car, air travel etc. meat would only contibute a proportion of total food impact on the environment, which is considerable but necessary (short of massive de-population). and a shame you veered into preachy territory.
I couldn’t go full vegan, my day is pretty much centred around eggs and I like cows milk. I’ve sort of compromised and now very rarely have meat indoors. I save it for meals out or a fry up in the cafe.
Given up bacon and sausages at home for health reasons, the occasional roast chicken is pretty much our only meat meal at home.
I’m replacing beer and lamb mince with quorn.
I am a fish eater though and have happily replaced most meat dishes with fish. Prawn stir fry etc.
I do miss charcuterie meats though. Your Parma hams and your salami. That’s saved for summer treats when I’m out and about and more often than not can replace with haloumi.
Trying to aim for a Mediterranean diet. Oils instead of butter, olives, fish, fresh salad stuffs.
But no, vegan would never be a willing option for me.
Could murder a nice shin of beef before bed though!
Given up bacon and sausages at home for health reasons, the occasional roast chicken is pretty much our only meat meal at home.
I’m replacing beer and lamb mince with quorn.
I am a fish eater though and have happily replaced most meat dishes with fish. Prawn stir fry etc.
I do miss charcuterie meats though. Your Parma hams and your salami. That’s saved for summer treats when I’m out and about and more often than not can replace with haloumi.
Trying to aim for a Mediterranean diet. Oils instead of butter, olives, fish, fresh salad stuffs.
But no, vegan would never be a willing option for me.
Could murder a nice shin of beef before bed though!
midnight_rendezvous
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Animal agriculture is the single biggest contributor to greenhouse gas emissions. It is an achievable, day to day way to reduce your environmental impact that has been backed up by scientific studies and reputable sources. I don’t think pointing that out is preachy tbh.
I agree, not preachy. The facts are undeniable and the more they are repeated the more chance we have of it sinking in.
A ham sandwich at lunchtime occasionally but my evening meal is usually meat free.
I could become vegetarian if I wanted to although I'm fighting on a few different battles at the moment - no smoking, drinking and cutting down on diazepam.
I could become vegetarian if I wanted to although I'm fighting on a few different battles at the moment - no smoking, drinking and cutting down on diazepam.
midnight_rendezvous
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Overconsumption is more of an issue than overpopulation. Reducing the consumption of meat is the single best day to day way of reducing an individual’s environmental impact. This is backed up by studies from several reputable sources.
We don’t need meat. It is not a dietary necessity. Many would argue that killing a sentient being because we value their lives lower than our taste preferences, is senseless.
Trufflehound
Re-enfranchised
I'm all for a veggie diet and quite like quorn, but not sure I could drink eight pints of it...!
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,315
the preachy bit is questioning peoples character. from my rough calc, i would save more from not driving to a supermarket, not having a computer or not commuting to work than stop eating meat, on a modest meat consumption.
Palacefinder General
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- Apr 5, 2019
- 2,594
We're all too tied up on labels, many people are part time vegetarians/carnivores/vegans and mix up their diet, some meat eaters I know don't do dairy, it's not always black and white, I haven't eaten red meat for decades but occasionally eat chicken or fish, along with some dairy.
Not sure I'd give up fish and salad for oil either.
Cutting down on going to work is harder than reducing meat consumption for most people.
Trufflehound
Re-enfranchised
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beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,315
fair enough but the claim was the biggest, not easiest. i just think people are more receptive to reducing consumption than proscriptive direction.
Mr Putdown
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It’s not even close to being the single biggest contributor to greenhouse gas emissions.
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions
Mr Putdown
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The majority of meat my household eats is killed by me and it certainly hasn’t stopped us eating it.
Knowing it was humanely killed and undertaking the preparation in readiness for the kitchen, means I’m happy to continue eating meat without losing any sleep.
Pretty common amongst the passionate vegan population in my experience- have quite a lot of veggie/vegan friends......had one particular pal who went full-on vegan evangelist though. Had to turn him off on FB because literally every single post (often multiple times daily) was vegan propaganda - slaughterhouse ‘hidden cams’, clips of dogs being skinned in the Far East etc etc etc plus very regular reminders of how stupid we were to drink cows milk and suchlike. He changed his profile name to John Vegan Smith, got a massive vegan tattoo, the lot.
Each to their own.......but there are plenty that are preachy and beyond.
Seasider78
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- Nov 14, 2004
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If everyone gave up meat we would just see a rise in intensive farming for crop with the use of environmentally damaging insecticides and other harmful practices.
Personally could never give up meat and have no burning ambition to either but good luck to anyone taking the plunge
Personally could never give up meat and have no burning ambition to either but good luck to anyone taking the plunge